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Are we "a very soft 9 - 2?" The WE DIDN'T PLAY ANYBODY argument.

You win the games u are suppose to. That's all you can do.
Originally posted by Niners99:
yeah but this coming from a Chargers fan doesnt mean much.

You cant just list out everyone we beat and say "look at their record right now". what matters is how they were playing when we played them. when we played the Eagles, they had a healthy Mike Vick. when we played the Bucs, they were 3-1. when we played the Lions, they were 5-0 and on fire. When we played the Giants, they were one of the hottest teams in the NFL, and had just gone INTO NE and beat them.and Cincy is a good team. they have a top 10 D, and are competing in the NFL's toughest division.

Your constant negativity is ridiculous. where was this thread before the Baltimore game? you wouldnt make a "49ers are down to 6th overall" thread if we were still on our 8 game winning streak. way to wait until we lose to post this.

the Saints lost to the Rams. stop anointing them as a team who "we would get behind against". we almost beat them last year as a crappy, poorly coached team. the Patriots are FAR superior? theyre D blows. nobody is FAR superior to the Niners this year. Stop acting like the Ravens blew us out. we lost by 10 pts that were all scored towards the end when we ran out of gas. our OL had a bad day, and the Ravens were on their game. the odds were stacked against us from the start anyways. throw the BAL game out the window, because were not going to have to play a cross country game on 3 days rest again. and the Steelers just barely beat the Chiefs. im not exactly quaking in my boots about playing them. Candlestick on MNF, i like our chances.

Our offense cant come from behind? you must not have seen the Philly game. or the Giants game. or the Lions game. our D wears teams down as the game goes along, so despite the fact that we dont have an offense like the Saints, we have very good chances of coming back from a deficit because of the D's ability to tire a team out in the 2nd half.

Have you even been watching this year? week 1 we played SEA at home. easy game, we won. week 2 we played DAL. we shouldve won that one, and still went to OT. if not for a blown coverage, we may have won even still. week 3 we flew out to Cincy for a physical battle against a team that turned out to be a contender rather than a pretender. week 4 we stay on the road and go into Philly, go down by 20, and lead a comeback for a win. week 5 we came back home to face a Bucs team that had been playing well, and we CRUSHED them by 45 pts. week 6 we flew back out to the east coast to face a Lions team that was on FIRE. crowd noise and all, we went ahead with a clutch final drive to win. week 8 we came back home and dominated a bad Browns team. week 9 we flew back out east to face the crappy skins, and held a 16 pt lead for most the entire game before garbage time pts. week 10 we came home to face a red hot Giants team that had just ended the Patriots home winning streak. we went down in the 2nd half, but lead a comeback and then the D held strong to win it. week 11 we faced a bad Cards team, and we whipped them. week 12, just 4 days later, we flew across the country into hostile territory to face the NFL's strongest D. we kept up blow for blow until the 4th, and in the end we couldnt overcome the disadvantage and lost. had the refs not made ticky-tack calls on the Ginn TD and the Brown INT, the momentum of the game might have taken it in a much different direction.

All in all, I count 4 easy wins, and 5 hard fought wins. 4-1 on the east coast, and weve allowed the fewest points in the NFL. we force the most turnovers, and give up the least. the fact that you think this team is a cupcake pretender leads me to believe that you havent been watching this season, and are undoubtedly a closet Chargers fan. you truly wouldve been the one guy who said the team wasnt as good as people think in the 1984 season.
good post
We can say we are having a rebuilding year, and just happen to be winning games while we are rebuilding

So we might as well continue to win games and look to improve for the future at the same time ...win/win situation ..we are off to a great f*cking start wouldnt you say
Any more fans about to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because we're a soft 9-2?

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Any more fans about to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because we're a soft 9-2?


Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Any more fans about to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because we're a soft 9-2?


damn didn't know you guys saw me.
Hey, teams we beat early were ranked high, most played well, (with a couple exceptions) and then some dropped like stones(eagles, detroit) after we beat them. The team that shellacked us(not in score but on the field) was with a 3 day rest and covered 3 time zones. We were tired, unprepared, played hard and got clobbered. Everything being equal i would love to see us play these jokers again this season...say in Feb?
we are not soft. After the Baltimore game they were talking about how we have already played like 5 or 6 of the defenses in the top twelve. I don't know about y'all but to me that is not soft.

PEACE FROM THE FAN
Let the haters hate. They can all kiss my a$$! Any given sunday. No matter what the record or how bad a team is, you still gotta play the game. Look at the Rams and Saints. Does anybody honestly believe the Saints are terrible cuz they lost to the Rams? Oh and don't forget about the Saints losing to the Bucs.
Originally posted by Niners99:
yeah but this coming from a Chargers fan doesnt mean much.

You cant just list out everyone we beat and say "look at their record right now". what matters is how they were playing when we played them. when we played the Eagles, they had a healthy Mike Vick. when we played the Bucs, they were 3-1. when we played the Lions, they were 5-0 and on fire. When we played the Giants, they were one of the hottest teams in the NFL, and had just gone INTO NE and beat them.and Cincy is a good team. they have a top 10 D, and are competing in the NFL's toughest division.

Your constant negativity is ridiculous. where was this thread before the Baltimore game? you wouldnt make a "49ers are down to 6th overall" thread if we were still on our 8 game winning streak. way to wait until we lose to post this.

the Saints lost to the Rams. stop anointing them as a team who "we would get behind against". we almost beat them last year as a crappy, poorly coached team. the Patriots are FAR superior? theyre D blows. nobody is FAR superior to the Niners this year. Stop acting like the Ravens blew us out. we lost by 10 pts that were all scored towards the end when we ran out of gas. our OL had a bad day, and the Ravens were on their game. the odds were stacked against us from the start anyways. throw the BAL game out the window, because were not going to have to play a cross country game on 3 days rest again. and the Steelers just barely beat the Chiefs. im not exactly quaking in my boots about playing them. Candlestick on MNF, i like our chances.

Our offense cant come from behind? you must not have seen the Philly game. or the Giants game. or the Lions game. our D wears teams down as the game goes along, so despite the fact that we dont have an offense like the Saints, we have very good chances of coming back from a deficit because of the D's ability to tire a team out in the 2nd half.

Have you even been watching this year? week 1 we played SEA at home. easy game, we won. week 2 we played DAL. we shouldve won that one, and still went to OT. if not for a blown coverage, we may have won even still. week 3 we flew out to Cincy for a physical battle against a team that turned out to be a contender rather than a pretender. week 4 we stay on the road and go into Philly, go down by 20, and lead a comeback for a win. week 5 we came back home to face a Bucs team that had been playing well, and we CRUSHED them by 45 pts. week 6 we flew back out to the east coast to face a Lions team that was on FIRE. crowd noise and all, we went ahead with a clutch final drive to win. week 8 we came back home and dominated a bad Browns team. week 9 we flew back out east to face the crappy skins, and held a 16 pt lead for most the entire game before garbage time pts. week 10 we came home to face a red hot Giants team that had just ended the Patriots home winning streak. we went down in the 2nd half, but lead a comeback and then the D held strong to win it. week 11 we faced a bad Cards team, and we whipped them. week 12, just 4 days later, we flew across the country into hostile territory to face the NFL's strongest D. we kept up blow for blow until the 4th, and in the end we couldnt overcome the disadvantage and lost. had the refs not made ticky-tack calls on the Ginn TD and the Brown INT, the momentum of the game might have taken it in a much different direction.

All in all, I count 4 easy wins, and 5 hard fought wins. 4-1 on the east coast, and weve allowed the fewest points in the NFL. we force the most turnovers, and give up the least. the fact that you think this team is a cupcake pretender leads me to believe that you havent been watching this season, and are undoubtedly a closet Chargers fan. you truly wouldve been the one guy who said the team wasnt as good as people think in the 1984 season.


Could not have said it better myself. Obviously there are some so-called fans who are not paying any real attention to the season at hand. It burns me up when stupidity has a voice, but this is America
Read the article today in the Sac Bee. It answers your question directly.
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Forget the subjectivity, of the teams that are at least 8-3 here are the strength of schedule numbers . . .

Strength of schedule in games played to date:
1. Baltimore: 65-56 (.537) - 4-0 against the top seven
2. Pittsburgh: 60-61 (.496) - 1-3 against the top seven
2. New England: 60-61 (.496) - 0-1 against the top seven
4. San Francisco: 59-62 (.488) - 0-1 against the top seven
5. New Orleans: 55-66 (.455) - 0-1 against the top seven
6. Houston: 54-67 (.446) - 1-2 against the top seven
7. Green Bay: 52-69 (.430) - 1-0 against the top seven

Aside from Baltimore's strength of schedule and 4-0 against the top seven, the rest of the pack doesn't separate itself.



Strength of schedule remaining games:
1. Green Bay: 31-24 (.564)
2. Pittsburgh: 26-29 (.473) - 1 game remaining vs top seven
3. New Orleans: 25-30 (.455)
4. Houston: 23-32 (.418)
5. San Francisco: 20-35 (.364) - 1 game remaining vs top seven
6. Baltimore: 19-36 (.345)
7. New England: 18-37 (.327)

Interesting post. 0 - 1 against the top 7 is what I mean.
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Forget the subjectivity, of the teams that are at least 8-3 here are the strength of schedule numbers . . .

Strength of schedule in games played to date:
1. Baltimore: 65-56 (.537) - 4-0 against the top seven
2. Pittsburgh: 60-61 (.496) - 1-3 against the top seven
2. New England: 60-61 (.496) - 0-1 against the top seven
4. San Francisco: 59-62 (.488) - 0-1 against the top seven
5. New Orleans: 55-66 (.455) - 0-1 against the top seven
6. Houston: 54-67 (.446) - 1-2 against the top seven
7. Green Bay: 52-69 (.430) - 1-0 against the top seven

Aside from Baltimore's strength of schedule and 4-0 against the top seven, the rest of the pack doesn't separate itself.



Strength of schedule remaining games:
1. Green Bay: 31-24 (.564)
2. Pittsburgh: 26-29 (.473) - 1 game remaining vs top seven
3. New Orleans: 25-30 (.455)
4. Houston: 23-32 (.418)
5. San Francisco: 20-35 (.364) - 1 game remaining vs top seven
6. Baltimore: 19-36 (.345)
7. New England: 18-37 (.327)

Oh jeeze, there is nothing interesting about that post, just a bunch of fanciful numbers!! People, please understand that this is the NFL, decease free of BCS standards You know, where win and loses are the most important metric by which teams are judged and measured. Who a team looses to, points scored, etc., are reserved for rare tie-breakers, thankfully. So can we just get over the strength-of-schedule thing. It means absolutely nothing in the NFL.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Nov 30, 2011 at 7:43 AM ]
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Read the article today in the Sac Bee. It answers your question directly.

Leading Off: 49ers' record proves little, means plenty


A hard-hitting loss to one of the NFL's better teams, and the 49ers need to defend their still-young-but-growing reputation?

The chorus of "who have they beaten this season?" is being heard after their record fell to 9-2 after the Thanksgiving night loss to the Baltimore Ravens. It sounds fairly off-key.

These things are true: The 49ers' record, second-best in the league, was not built at the expense of a string of patsies. Of the nine victories, only four came against teams that had losing records when they played the 49ers. Both losses were to teams that lead their divisions; three wins were over division-leading teams.

They are far from perfect. Championship football is all about the trenches, and Baltimore provided a clear lesson in how that works. A couple of wins came despite shaky aspects to overall performance. Quarterback Alex Smith has improved, but he does not have a truly proven receiving corps (now, does he, Braylon Edwards?).

But the team's defense is tough and features some stars. Frank Gore is among the NFL's best running backs. The 49ers can kick/punt as well as any team. Their quarterback has been steady, and the coaching – despite a niggling tendency to get cute sometimes when basic seems preferable – represents one of the biggest upgrades for any facet of any team.

A 9-2 record guarantees nothing more than a good shot at the playoffs and that people will say the team is not as good as fans think.

That alone tells you the 49ers have taken a big step. They're part of the conversation again.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/30/4088632/leading-off-49ers-record-proves.html#ixzz1fCl68MLk
The Niners are for real. Their schedule has been plenty tough enough. Our vulnerability is protecting the passer and how Smith breaks down under intense pressure. That is how teams will attack us for the remainder of the year and in post season. If we are to go anywhere in the playoffs, we'll need the Alex Smith who has been cool and in command during most games, but cospicuously absent in stretches against teams that bring heavy pressure. I think it boils down to that. We're going to go as far as Alex Smith takes us. The track record is mixed. A healthy and effective Braylon Edwards would really help Smith down the stretch.