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Are the 49ers overrated at #2 in the power rankings?

Are the 49ers overrated at #2 in the power rankings?

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No. The D. is pretty awesome. The special teams is awesome. The O Line is really good. The RB's are really good. Alex is plaing very good football and we have one of the best HC's in the leauge. How is that overrated? It's functioning on all cylinders.

This. I don't always agree with SanDiego but I do here.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No. The D. is pretty awesome. The special teams is awesome. The O Line is really good. The RB's are really good. Alex is plaing very good football and we have one of the best HC's in the leauge. How is that overrated? It's functioning on all cylinders.

This. I don't always agree with SanDiego but I do here.


I don't always agree with SanDiego, but when I do I prefer
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No. The D. is pretty awesome. The special teams is awesome. The O Line is really good. The RB's are really good. Alex is plaing very good football and we have one of the best HC's in the leauge. How is that overrated? It's functioning on all cylinders.

This. I don't always agree with SanDiego but I do here.


I don't always agree with SanDiego, but when I do I prefer

I'd say yes...definitely top 5 though.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by English:
Yes, balanced. But developing and getting better.







Pansy asses?

Yes, we are a tough team that is physical in an era of soft teams. Seems like the talking heads want pass happy teams that play suspect defense, too bad for them Harbaugh missed that memo.

The NFL wants passhappy teams. That iswhy all the rule changes. Harbaugh founda way to make a balanced team work. He winsa Superbowl within 2 years and he will rank side by side with Walsh IMO.
We're 49er fans so it's not high enough. Realistically, they are #1 on defense and the offense is quite effective inside the red zone. Special teams are among the leagues best so you put it all together and the ranking is justified. Wouldn't surprise me if we become #1 in the next several weeks.
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
We're 49er fans so it's not high enough. Realistically, they are #1 on defense and the offense is quite effective inside the red zone. Special teams are among the leagues best so you put it all together and the ranking is justified. Wouldn't surprise me if we become #1 in the next several weeks.

Green Bay would have to lose twice for us to jump them in the coming weeks.
Originally posted by Jd925:
I think yes.

I start to get concerned when people start talking about 13 to 15 wins and Superbowls etc. and listen to and read all the glowing remarks on everything the 49er's do. Sure the schedule looks favorable so we should get a bunch more wins, but how good is this team really?

I think I would probably rate them top 5 right now, but I think Pittsburg, New England, and the Ravens are still more proven. I also think the 49ers seem to have had a favorable schedule (catching the Eagles early before they got hot and catching teams like Washington when they are hurt and going down etc..) There are other good teams that aren't far behind such as the Saints, Bills, Giants, Lions, Jets, Atlanta...

Hey no doubt the 49ers look really strong these days, but I think we are getting ahead of ourselves.

Freddie P

Patriots
Played; Miami, San Diego, Buffalo, Oakland, Jets, Cowboys, Pittsburgh
Left; Giants, Jets, Kansas City, Philly, Indy, Washington, Denver, Miami, Buffalo
Opponents Played Records: 26-24 ------- +2
Opponents Left Records: 26-38 ------------ -12
Total Records: 52 - 62 ------------------------ -10

Steelers
Played; Baltimore, Seattle, Indy, Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Arizona, New England
Left; Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Cleveland, 49ers, St.Louis, Cleveland
Opponents Played Records: 24 - 35 ------ -11
Opponents Left Records: 32 - 24 ----------- +8
Total Records: 56 - 59 -------------------------- -3

Green Bay
Played; New Orleans, Carolina, Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, St.Louis, Minnesota
Left; San Diego, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Detroit, New York Giants, Oakland, Kansas City, Chicago, Detroit
Opponent Played Records: 20 - 32 ------ -12
Opponents Left Records: 37 - 27 --------- + 10
Total Records: 57 - 59 ------------------------ +2

Baltimore Ravens
Played; Pittsburgh, Tennessee, St.Louis, New York Jets, Houston, Jacksonville, Arizona
Left; Pittsburgh, Seattle, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Cleveland, Indy, San Diego, Cleveland, Cincinnati
Opponents Played Record: 22 - 27 ---- -5
Opponents Left Record: 33 - 31 --------- +2
Total Opponents: 55 - 58 ------------------- -3

San Francisco
Played; Seattle, Dallas, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Cleveland
Left; Washington, New York Giants, Arizona, Baltimore, St.Louis, Arizona, Pittsburgh, Seattle, St.Louis
Opponents Played Record: 25 - 24 ---- +1
Opponents Left Record: 24 - 39 --------- -15
Total Records: 49 - 63 ---------------------- -14

Schedule Strength So Far:
1. New England Patriots +2
2. San Francisco 49ers +1
3. Baltimore Ravens - 5
4. Pittsburgh Steelers -11
5. Green Bay - 12

Strength of Schedule Remaining
1. Green Bay Packers +12
2. Pittsburgh Steelers +10
3. Baltimore Ravens +8
4. New England -12
5. San Francisco -15

Total Strength of Schedule
1. Green Bay Packers +2
2. Baltimore Ravens -3
2. Pittsburgh Steelers -3
4. New England Patriots - 10
5. San Francisco 49ers - 14


- So really, IMO Green Bay has been untested thus far through the season. They should have one hell of a last half of the season, and I don't see them winning a majority of their remaining games.
- The Ravens Also have the tougher part of their schedule remaining, but not too much tougher than what they've encountered
- The Steelers also run into the tougher teams in their division, and with already dropping 2, I expect a few more.
- The Pats Should have a very easy time from here on out.
- The 49ers, should have no problem from here on out.


Looking at Strength of schedule thus far, I'd honestly say the Packers are the overrated team at #1.
[ Edited by JayDAche on Nov 5, 2011 at 8:07 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Green Bay would have to lose twice for us to jump them in the coming weeks.

Every team the Packers will meet from here on has a +.500 record, aside from Minnesota.
I wouldn't be crazy to see it happen.
Originally posted by JayDAche:
Patriots
Played; Miami, San Diego, Buffalo, Oakland, Jets, Cowboys, Pittsburgh
Left; Giants, Jets, Kansas City, Philly, Indy, Washington, Denver, Miami, Buffalo
Opponents Played Records: 26-24 ------- +2
Opponents Left Records: 26-38 ------------ -12
Total Records: 52 - 62 ------------------------ -10

Steelers
Played; Baltimore, Seattle, Indy, Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Arizona, New England
Left; Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Cleveland, 49ers, St.Louis, Cleveland
Opponents Played Records: 24 - 35 ------ -11
Opponents Left Records: 32 - 24 ----------- +8
Total Records: 56 - 59 -------------------------- -3

Green Bay
Played; New Orleans, Carolina, Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, St.Louis, Minnesota
Left; San Diego, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Detroit, New York Giants, Oakland, Kansas City, Chicago, Detroit
Opponent Played Records: 20 - 32 ------ -12
Opponents Left Records: 37 - 27 --------- + 10
Total Records: 57 - 59 ------------------------ +2

Baltimore Ravens
Played; Pittsburgh, Tennessee, St.Louis, New York Jets, Houston, Jacksonville, Arizona
Left; Pittsburgh, Seattle, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Cleveland, Indy, San Diego, Cleveland, Cincinnati
Opponents Played Record: 22 - 27 ---- -5
Opponents Left Record: 33 - 31 --------- +2
Total Opponents: 55 - 58 ------------------- -3

San Francisco
Played; Seattle, Dallas, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Cleveland
Left; Washington, New York Giants, Arizona, Baltimore, St.Louis, Arizona, Pittsburgh, Seattle, St.Louis
Opponents Played Record: 25 - 24 ---- +1
Opponents Left Record: 24 - 39 --------- -15
Total Records: 49 - 63 ---------------------- -14

Schedule Strength So Far:
1. New England Patriots +2
2. San Francisco 49ers +1
3. Baltimore Ravens - 5
4. Pittsburgh Steelers -11
5. Green Bay - 12

Strength of Schedule Remaining
1. Green Bay Packers +12
2. Pittsburgh Steelers +10
3. Baltimore Ravens +8
4. New England -12
5. San Francisco -15

Total Strength of Schedule
1. Green Bay Packers +2
2. Baltimore Ravens -3
2. Pittsburgh Steelers -3
4. New England Patriots - 10
5. San Francisco 49ers - 14


- So really, IMO Green Bay has been untested thus far through the season. They should have one hell of a last half of the season, and I don't see them winning a majority of their remaining games.
- The Ravens Also have the tougher part of their schedule remaining, but not too much tougher than what they've encountered
- The Steelers also run into the tougher teams in their division, and with already dropping 2, I expect a few more.
- The Pats Should have a very easy time from here on out.
- The 49ers, should have no problem from here on out.


Looking at Strength of schedule thus far, I'd honestly say the Packers are the overrated team at #1.

Nice research, good post!
yeah, nice work Jay!

crazy that GB goes from a "-12" to a "+10". That's an incredibly shift in difficulty.

I'm glad ours goes the other way.
just because a team is more "proven" in the past has nothing to do with this year. we have the 2nd best record and have beaten good teams. every team in the top 10 has its holes and i believe they are beatable. not saying we go to the SB(i hope), but we are a very good team.
more like underrated amirite??
yep

every good team we have beaten simply wasn't good that week

thank god we got to play the eagles before they gelled and caught fire
Originally posted by RonMexico:
yep

every good team we have beaten simply wasn't good that week

thank god we got to play the eagles before they gelled and caught fire
There are going to be a lot of teams that aren't as good the day we play them.