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Cohn: Think you know West Coast Offense? Think again

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  • 190836
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A great Article about West Coast Offense and how it has changed.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20111027/SPORTS/111029550/1010/SPORTS?p=all&tc=pgall
  • Tman
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thanks Lowell but...........
after reading...... i think 9ers get a touchdown on first drive of game! fo sho
Originally posted by bleeds9ersredandgold:
after reading...... i think 9ers get a touchdown on first drive of game! fo sho

that's a first
[ Edited by YungAce on Oct 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM ]
Great Article.
Originally posted by bleeds9ersredandgold:
after reading...... i think 9ers get a touchdown on first drive of game! fo sho
Did you see the Bucs game?
Originally posted by 190836:
A great Article about West Coast Offense and how it has changed.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20111027/SPORTS/111029550/1010/SPORTS?p=all&tc=pgall

one of your better pieces Lowell. You must be reading our comments finally.
Didn't say anything that we didn't know 10 years ago. Mooch came in and because G. Hurst was such a good runner, he put in the I formation. Before that, Shannahan would sometime split Watters wide and essentially have Steve as a running back if things break down on that particular passing play.

I guess Cohen just found out for himself after all this time...
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 28, 2011 at 8:41 AM ]
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110924/sports/110929663?tc=obinsite

No cigar here, Lowell.
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You children need to read and learn from uncle Lowell. You be hating too much.
Nice article. Good read.

  • dj43
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One of the better pieces from the Cohn Clan.

One of the components of Walsh's offense was that he was willing to adjust as needed. Now, as we look back to 30 years ago (I can't believe it has been that long), we can say that Walsh "only" did this or that. The temptation is to look rather superficially at Walsh and suggest that today's versions of what he started are much more advanced and therefore better. The fall to that temptation would be a mistake. It would mean the writer really didn't study what Walsh did.

One can tell how much homework a writer has done by how deeply they look at him over the 10 years he really had control of what happened. For example, what Walsh started with Ricky Patton and Lenvil Elliott at RB and Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark at WR changed a great deal when Wendell Tyler took over at RB and again when Jerry Rice accepted his mantle.

With Tyler, Walsh ran him more from an I-type set than he did previously. Tyler has great cutback ability and as well as quickness so he allowed Walsh to do things a bit differently. That approach stayed on through Roger Craig and Tom Rathman, both of whom added substantial new areas to the role of RB.

On the passing side, Rice just changed the game completely, and Walsh was bright enough to understand the possibilities with him, hence he made the "bold move" (reference another thread ) to move up and grab him. With Rice, Walsh was able to put in new routes and alignments that were not there before.

About the only constant in the Walsh years was Bobb McKittrick as OL coach, and even he added some wrinkles as the seasons went by. One of the things not often mentioned was his planting the seed in Mike Shanahan's head for the stretch blocking schemes that Denver became known for after Shanahan went there. McKittrick never used them much, because he didn't have to, but the quickness and agility he demanded in offensive linemen for the pulls and quick traps to work so well were the same requirements needed for stretch plays to be successful.

It would be fascinating to see what Walsh would be doing today if he were in Jim Harbaugh's shoes. Having watched all those years, it is my opinion Walsh would look back and those early years and say "My, how things have changed from what we ran back then." Because the true genius of Bill Walsh was that he was always looking for new and innovative ways to make the offense more effective and less predictable. Right now I would like to think he is likely looking down at the 3 TE sets Harbaugh is running with all the options and smiling.
Makes me wonder if Harbaugh and Roman have weaved the WCO into the Joe Gibbs style running game...remember the Hogs... lots of between the tackles stuff.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Makes me wonder if Harbaugh and Roman have weaved the WCO into the Joe Gibbs style running game...remember the Hogs... lots of between the tackles stuff.

I think that was what Mike Singletary may have had in mind. However, the Harbaugh attack uses a lot more deception. JH really channels Walsh in that he uses a certain set with multiple options. For example, that 3 TE set looks like a running play but we have already seen 3 or 4 different pass patterns come out of it. That is Walsh stuff much more than Joe Gibbs. Gibbs just put that big ol' John Riggins behind all those big ol' hogs and dared people to stop them.
What Walsh brought to the table in his early years was truly a man who understood football. At the time running the football was paramont to passing the ball. The defenses were big and slow. Walsh ate them up. Over the years defenses had to change or get blowen away. Now what might be happening is Harbaugh recognizes that the defenses are now setting up for the passing game. The defenses now are fast so now just maybe that the run game will once again become the way to beat them. Football is about changes and those who see it first are the ones that succede.
f**k Lowell Cohn
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