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Harbaugh Handshake with Jim Schwartz

Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be

Disagree with that completely
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be


dude jim harbaugh being the way he is lights his players up. they know hes willing to give his all and is behind them 100% and they fight with everything they have for him. bad challenges? every headcoach loses challenges. his game management is WAY better than anything weve had here for a long time
Originally posted by susweel:
It was not a good move JH's part and I do think he should apologize for it.


Head coaches are leaders of men the team looks to them on how to act. You cant be jumping around and slap hand shaking people and pushing them in the back.


Respect the game and respect your opponent. My son was watching the game and he asked me "Dad how come they are fighting". Its hard to explain to children when the HC is acting like a child.


I love JH as our head coach but I do think he was out of line on that one.

I agree with you Susweel as I thought the push in the back was out of line. Harbaugh said he apologized in the tunell
Anyone post this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spmrTbg7eo
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Originally posted by KDTMDSFC:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/10/16/when-jim-harbaugh-and-jim-schwartz-had-dinner-in-new-orleans/

- 98

John, knew about this convo and I'm sure Jim mentioned it to him prior to the game and that's why John was like, I some juicyness as to why it happened but i'm not going there.
Remember in preseason when the Saints blitzed the s**t out of us.. it was thought that it was because coach Sean Payton called Harbaugh to discuss how they would play the game, personnel wise etc. And Harbaugh never called him back. So Payton basically said FU and blitzed our ass, making us look like retards out there.

I have nothing to add other than it seems Jim DOES NOT GIVE A FUUUCK about you puny coaches or your puny team.
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be


Well there are 2 types of fans. Those who want to be a dynasty again, and those who just want to win on Sunday.

If you pay attention to the NFL, the franchises who last are managed by soft spoken, reserved, cerebral adults.

You can make eyes all you want, but I understand the NFL, and I understand that deep down the nucleus of football players don't want another testerone driven guy at the helm, they want guys like that on the field with them, but at the helm they want a stoic general.

Look at who wins the Superbowls?

Ask yourself where are the Jets now?

Rah Rah coaches never last. It looks like he will stop the playoff drought which is priority number 1. So I am ecstatic about that. But beyond that I don't see long term success unless he starts to calm down.
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John Harbaugh's take on it today:

Harbaugh spoke with his brother today about the incident. "I can tell you this, I think I know who was right," John Harbaugh said. "Whoever was right or wrong, I know whose side I'm on. I'm definitely taking sides, same side I'm always taking."


Nice
Originally posted by theginz2004:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be

Disagree with that completely

well you do pose some compelling reasons
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be




Maybe it was Dilfer but he said it best, basically the players get their adrenaline up and then get to go hit someone for a release, coaches build and build and sometimes it can spill over. It's human emotion, a young coach on a young team that just pulled off the near impossible...5-1 heading into the bye week. Not to mention all the smack talking during the game with Schwartz bagging on Harbs left & right. Then you throw in the dinner this past offseason where Schwartz told him he had no chance with the lockout to be successful this year.. and you get an adrenaline rush with the win.

Was Harbs in the right? no, he should of tried a little better to simmer down before the handshake... but that doesnt excuse what Schwartz did in overeacting or the handshake process in general which is the biggest bunch of nonsense in all of sports. If left up to the coaches I bet maybe 10% of games end in a handshake the rest would rather just head to the locker room after a loss.
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be


Well there are 2 types of fans. Those who want to be a dynasty again, and those who just want to win on Sunday.

If you pay attention to the NFL, the franchises who last are managed by soft spoken, reserved, cerebral adults.

You can make eyes all you want, but I understand the NFL, and I understand that deep down the nucleus of football players don't want another testerone driven guy at the helm, they want guys like that on the field with them, but at the helm they want a stoic general.

Look at who wins the Superbowls?

Ask yourself where are the Jets now?

Rah Rah coaches never last. It looks like he will stop the playoff drought which is priority number 1. So I am ecstatic about that. But beyond that I don't see long term success unless he starts to calm down.

Interviews so far say they Love Harbaugh and the way he is

GC: Was it surprising to you that it was coaches that got over excited after the game and not players?

JEAN-FRANCOIS: Yeah, it was shocking to me. The coaches were more excited than us. But just to see that, that shows us the coaches got their heart in it. They're not just doing this for a pay check. He's actually into it. They want to see us win. To see that, you'll go out there every week and do what it takes to win for those coaches. Just to see them coaches that happy, to see them coaches jumping up and down, getting on a four or five hour plane ride and have a good time talking to you.
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be


dude jim harbaugh being the way he is lights his players up. they know hes willing to give his all and is behind them 100% and they fight with everything they have for him. bad challenges? every headcoach loses challenges. his game management is WAY better than anything weve had here for a long time

Uhhh, losing or winning a challenge is not what makes it a bad challenge. If you don't understand that concept I am not sure I can help you.

A. He challenged a scoring play!!!!!! Thats a penalty!!!!! Everybody should know that!!!! I certainly understood that before game 1 started
B: 2nd half, in a close game, Alex already had to burn a T.O......you don't challenge again in the 3rd quarter and the play wasn't even that critical

Nolan and Sing also sucked at challenges. Its not the winning percentages that make HC's good challenge coaches, its the ones who understand what battles to fight and when, and when the timeout is not worth the risk
[ Edited by danimal on Oct 17, 2011 at 2:12 PM ]
Harbaugh just mistook Schwartz for Fedrick P. Soft....
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Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be




Maybe it was Dilfer but he said it best, basically the players get their adrenaline up and then get to go hit someone for a release, coaches build and build and sometimes it can spill over. It's human emotion, a young coach on a young team that just pulled off the near impossible...5-1 heading into the bye week. Not to mention all the smack talking during the game with Schwartz bagging on Harbs left & right. Then you throw in the dinner this past offseason where Schwartz told him he had no chance with the lockout to be successful this year.. and you get an adrenaline rush with the win.

Was Harbs in the right? no, he should of tried a little better to simmer down before the handshake... but that doesnt excuse what Schwartz did in overeacting or the handshake process in general which is the biggest bunch of nonsense in all of sports. If left up to the coaches I bet maybe 10% of games end in a handshake the rest would rather just head to the locker room after a loss.

Funny you said that, Tom Jackson said in his playing days, coach's never shook hands and that sometimes they would just give each other waves from afar, maybe thats what needs to be done nowadays to avoid stupid s**t like this.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by danimal:
Harbaugh went down in my book several points yesterday, and that was before the handshake. Had we lost, I was going to put in squarely on Jim. Terrible challenges and timeout management(sound familiar?) and the penalties fiasco starts at HC.

Sometimes it seems like we have just another Nolan, Sing type of guy....with the critical difference being Jim actually understands 21st century offense and is a QB guru.

Now those are tremendous differences, but I really hope they are not the ONLY differences.

Grow up Jim. You don't play in the NFL anymore. Start acting like the great head coach you have the potential to be


Well there are 2 types of fans. Those who want to be a dynasty again, and those who just want to win on Sunday.

If you pay attention to the NFL, the franchises who last are managed by soft spoken, reserved, cerebral adults.

You can make eyes all you want, but I understand the NFL, and I understand that deep down the nucleus of football players don't want another testerone driven guy at the helm, they want guys like that on the field with them, but at the helm they want a stoic general.

Look at who wins the Superbowls?

Ask yourself where are the Jets now?

Rah Rah coaches never last. It looks like he will stop the playoff drought which is priority number 1. So I am ecstatic about that. But beyond that I don't see long term success unless he starts to calm down.

Interviews so far say they Love Harbaugh and the way he is

GC: Was it surprising to you that it was coaches that got over excited after the game and not players?

JEAN-FRANCOIS: Yeah, it was shocking to me. The coaches were more excited than us. But just to see that, that shows us the coaches got their heart in it. They're not just doing this for a pay check. He's actually into it. They want to see us win. To see that, you'll go out there every week and do what it takes to win for those coaches. Just to see them coaches that happy, to see them coaches jumping up and down, getting on a four or five hour plane ride and have a good time talking to you.

you know me valrod. I try to remind people. Lets not have too short of memories. Sing was 8-5 at one point and the players loved his style too then. But they didn't love his style too much anymore when they started losing terribly. No they quit.

everybody loves everybody at 5-1. You should know this man