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Adjustments to make for week 4

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1) Bench Chilo (I counted 5 penalties on him alone in week 3)
2) Take deep shots downfield to VD/Ginn/KyWilliams
3) Blitz more
4) Use RB Hunter more and more
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The passing game seemed to be working against the Bengals. Our drives stalled because of the run getting stuffed and penalties. If they can cut down on the penalties and just throw until defenses back off a little, I think the season would get a lot easier. But the Eagles front 7 don't seem that strong so maybe the team will have more luck running against them compared to the Cowboys.
1. Definitely use Hunter more. Philly runs a "Wide-Nine" defense, so we will need to use Hunter's speed for outside runs and quick-hitters up the A gaps. We don't need to be giving their D time by running many counters and other slow-developing runs.

2. Take some quick, sideline shots on the 9 routes early on, Alex. Get them up there quickly when you see 1-on-1 outside... 3 seconds of protection is enough time to make this happen if you put a lil air under the passes.

3. Let the individual OL know in no uncertain terms... "your jobs are not safe here... play well today or changes will be coming."


4. Bracket coverage on DeSean Jackson... don't care if you use Rogers, Spencer, or Brown... but keep an extra defender around him so the CB can disrupt by jamming him up and then putting on the speed burst.

5. Key in on McCoy as a potential pass receiving threat. Screens, shifting out of the backfield, whatever... don't let him get loose.

6. If Vick or Young is the QB, of course our D must keep contain. RayMac and Justin will close in, but they must be careful not to take false steps.
I'm not sure about taking deep shots down the field in this one... Maybe 1 a quarter to keep them honest, and let that deep route be from the slot against a safety or a linebacker...

The strength of the Eagles defense is their secondary, namely their 3 corners, DRC, Nmandi and Samuel.... And their pass rush. With our lousy pass protection and the Eagles DB's ability to lock people down and not having Edwards or to a certain extent Crabtree, deep shots at this point in the year, may not work out to well...

However the Eagles are weak against the run and their linebackers are weak against the pass... Get a mix of the running game going, along with passes to the backs out of the back field and the double TE passing attack with Walker and Davis matched up against those linebackers...
I think we passed fine but ran our self into a hole. Have to establish a run game, maybe open it up with a swing pass or two.

Get after their QB. Cover the deep ball.

Use VD to our advantage.

Brooks and Ray Mac getting in their face.

Win the turnover battle!
If they take big swings at us ..We have to FIRE BACK HARD !!!!

We cant be throwing setup Jabs the entire game, we gotta take a few chances and loosen up that defense...which means we need BIG games from Ginn, Davis and Morgan
Originally posted by oldman9er:
1. Definitely use Hunter more. Philly runs a "Wide-Nine" defense, so we will need to use Hunter's speed for outside runs and quick-hitters up the A gaps. We don't need to be giving their D time by running many counters and other slow-developing runs.

2. Take some quick, sideline shots on the 9 routes early on, Alex. Get them up there quickly when you see 1-on-1 outside... 3 seconds of protection is enough time to make this happen if you put a lil air under the passes.

3. Let the individual OL know in no uncertain terms... "your jobs are not safe here... play well today or changes will be coming."


4. Bracket coverage on DeSean Jackson... don't care if you use Rogers, Spencer, or Brown... but keep an extra defender around him so the CB can disrupt by jamming him up and then putting on the speed burst.

5. Key in on McCoy as a potential pass receiving threat. Screens, shifting out of the backfield, whatever... don't let him get loose.

6. If Vick or Young is the QB, of course our D must keep contain. RayMac and Justin will close in, but they must be careful not to take false steps.

1. That wide 9 makes it hard for outside runs. Niners seem to block really well on toss's and pitches. This game they need to smash mouth the Eagles right up the A gaps' b/c their de's play so wide. Some inside traps and draws might catch them off guard. Anything that puts pressure on their linebacker core. I would like to see a normal screen play executed. God forbid they run a reverse to Ted ginn to utilize his speed and add a new wrinkle to the offense. Niners need to pass to set up the run. Be unpredictable.

2. Honestly our wr's aren't better than their secondary. but it can't hurt. Take a shot.

3. They should have already gotten that message.

4. They won't jam him b/c they are scared of his speed. I think they are gonna play a lot of zone.

5. Got to stop Mccoy. dude is a beast in the run game and passing game. He does like to shuffle his feet though. Gotta bring him down on 1st contact.

6. Willis needs to be the spy on either guy.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
1. Definitely use Hunter more. Philly runs a "Wide-Nine" defense, so we will need to use Hunter's speed for outside runs and quick-hitters up the A gaps. We don't need to be giving their D time by running many counters and other slow-developing runs.

2. Take some quick, sideline shots on the 9 routes early on, Alex. Get them up there quickly when you see 1-on-1 outside... 3 seconds of protection is enough time to make this happen if you put a lil air under the passes.

3. Let the individual OL know in no uncertain terms... "your jobs are not safe here... play well today or changes will be coming."


4. Bracket coverage on DeSean Jackson... don't care if you use Rogers, Spencer, or Brown... but keep an extra defender around him so the CB can disrupt by jamming him up and then putting on the speed burst.

5. Key in on McCoy as a potential pass receiving threat. Screens, shifting out of the backfield, whatever... don't let him get loose.

6. If Vick or Young is the QB, of course our D must keep contain. RayMac and Justin will close in, but they must be careful not to take false steps.

Great game plan points!

To add: The game plan for the Eagles defense against our offense will be the same as every team before them. Stack the box, up to 10 players and run blitz between the tackles...blitzing well is one of the Eagles strengths. It will be up to Harbaugh/Roman to take full advantage of this with RB/WR screens, crossing/slant & post patterns, deep stop-go patterns by Ginn/Williams, using VD/Walker behind the 5 yard box (void left from the attacking LBers), Hunter runs off-tackle, toss-outs, sweeps, etc.

We need to keep the defense OUT of the 5 yard box, from blitzing, playing down hill and generally, dictating our offense. Scheme alone can take advantage of this. Then WE can dictate for a damn change!

On defense, THIS is the time to insert Aldon Smith more for Haralson and keep Haralson fresh. This is the game we need to start Spencer and having both he and Rogers play physical and tight up at the LOS and run CB blitzes off this formation. This is the game Brooks, Smith & Haralson need to switch sides, show movement pre-snap and attack holes and weaknesses along the o-line w/o losing containment. Confusion is the key for Vick! We'll need to drop back AND blitz both Willis/Bowman/Safety. The attacks should mainly come from the outside edges with a push up the gut to contain Vick and frustrate him. No doubt he will make poor decisions and turn the ball over.

Let's get a big ST play and win the TO and TOP battle. Go Niners...coaching/scheme is THE key to winning this one.
[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 29, 2011 at 8:25 AM ]
patrick willis qb spy
Originally posted by lamontb:

4. They won't jam him b/c they are scared of his speed. I think they are gonna play a lot of zone.

I'm really interested to see how they skin that cat, but that would be my guess. If memory serves, Rogers ended up pulling his hamstring trying to keep up with him during last year's Monday Night massacre.

our offense opened up a lot last week when our o line didnt get called for holdings and false starts when we were pinne din our own endzone

so restrict those penalties and i think we will have a good game
Wouldnt rogers be familiar with Jackson? or did someone else cover him when they played twice a year ?
Originally posted by NinerFan408:
patrick willis qb spy

Bowman would be a better spy as he seems a bit quicker.
Quick slants and Bootlegs.
All good points; for my outlook:

A). Don't beat ourselves w/ turnovers.

B). Send Ginn and /or /Williams, Morgan deep very often to pull the DBacks down field and throw intermediate passes just over LBackers and use slants

C). Have offense stay on field as long as possible to tire out their front DLine and rest our D.

E). Solid line play. We won't get fantastic out of these guys this early in the season with a new scheme but solid will get the job done.

GO NINERS!
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