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I always dreamed of having a thread that went over 1,000 replies....

...but not this way
Shaj, You are amongst the few who was right about Alex. Pay no attention to these peons. Nobody likes to be proven wrong, and Alex has been proving them wrong for 7 years now
It's 90.4 degrees outside
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W30acTyVsvo&feature=player_embedded#!

Highlights for the game... Watch Smith and some of his throws and decisions he makes. Even the announcers give him props.

Maybe instead of judging one throw we as a fan base can look at the whole picture.

Great idea!!!

Here's the big picture for Alex Smith:

22 - 36 career win/loss record
72.4 career passer rating

any questions?

124 yards passing 0 TDs and missing wide open players in the endzone.

Could you guys at least say those were good throws? Listen to the announcer at 3:57 "That was a great job extending the play, it was a beautiful throw" Also look at the 9 minute mark "Alex Smith throws an absolute dart. Threads the needle now that is a big time throw"

Troy Smith had some incredible throws as well, much more incredible than Smith has thrown in his wet dreams, in fact. Do you wish for me to extoll the virtues of those throws, at the expense of characterizing his overall career potential - which tells a completely different story, just to make Troy Smith fans feeeeel gooooood?

Shaj. Your ability to have an intellectual discussion is negligible at best. It is pretty funny to me that you think so highly of your deductive reasoning skills. Your football knowledge is clearly lacking,but you tend to fall back on some strange megalomaniacal, business-oriented analysis paradigm. I have a new exercise for you to try. Read the posts to which you wish to respond two or three times before responding. It is obvious that you lack the innate reading comprehension abilities necessary to quickly digest and diagnose the meaning of said posts. I think taking it a bit slower might help you to focus in on preparing salient arguments instead of falling back on your talking points, or using rhetorical techniques that you have been previously calling out in others.

Either you purposely ignored the point of the post- Just call the game what it was, and be fair about your (understandably limited) analysis of the current game- or you didn't understand that his plea was not a challenge of your view about Smith's career, but rather your lack of intellectual honesty.You lose a ton of credibility when you can't admit obvious facts, or you have to deflect the facts and bring up some straw-man argument in response.

I understand a Smith "haters"point of view. The responsible reaction from someone with that viewpoint for the previous game would have been that "Smith played pretty well. The playcalling was conservative. We have no idea why it was conservative, and can only guess as to the motivations behind the playcalling (if we aren't taking the player's and coach quotes as being legitimate. Smith made enough plays that they won the game. He made some nice throws, and missed a few as well. One game doesn't change the overall view of Smith, but if he can string a number of games like the last one (with perhaps more production as the offense opens up) then my mind coiuld begin to slowly change. I doubt that will happen because of past performance, but I can see why it would make sense for some to think things could change with a new coach and system."

In another thread you started going off about how great Kolb was last week. His QBR (another stat that you have used very selectively to bash Smith last year) was much worse than Smith's yet that didn't fit your agenda. I have a suspicion that if the games had been reversed you would have been using the QBR to bury Smith. We can look at your past performances in this regard for verification that you would most likely use this tact. Intellectual dishonesty, Shaj. It is your legacy on this board. Step it up a little bit in the future.

dt: There is no need to make this personal. If you cannot focus on the posts and not the poster, you will be warned.
Originally posted by aman49:
I always dreamed of having a thread that went over 1,000 replies....

...but not way

Just stop it you knew what you were doing.
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
"Smith played pretty well. The playcalling was conservative. We have no idea why it was conservative, and can only guess as to the motivations behind the playcalling (if we aren't taking the player's and coach quotes as being legitimate). Smith made enough plays that they won the game. He made some nice throws, and missed a few as well. One game doesn't change the overall view of Smith, but if he can string a number of games like the last one (with perhaps more production as the offense opens up) then my mind coiuld begin to slowly change. I doubt that will happen because of past performance, but I can see why it would make sense for some to think things could change with a new coach and system."

I can only DREAM of such a logical, reasonable response in Niner Talk.
Originally posted by aman49:
I always dreamed of having a thread that went over 1,000 replies....

...but not this way


You love this. Don't lie.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD ABOUT THE TOPIC AND REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NAME CALLING. THANK YOU.
ANYWAY...


How bout them Cowboys...
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
ANYWAY...


How bout them Cowboys...

Thank you Jimmy

dt: There is no need to make this personal. If you cannot focus on the posts and not the poster, you will be warned.

Sorry. I probably deserve to be warned for that.
Originally posted by Amir:
Originally posted by Shaj:
that assessment says NOTHING about fantasy points or rankings. This is a red herring argument on your parts. All it says is a prognostication of his future performance, based on his past performance. There is nothing fantasy about the statements posted. They are an ESPN NFL analysts opinon of Alex Smith. Nothing more, nothing less.

"ESPN Fantasy Projection: Smith, a former No. 1 overall pick, has lost heat off his fastball because of shoulder surgery, is jittery in the pocket and has never conquered the accuracy problems that have plagued him since day one. But Jim Harbaugh has decided to use Smith as a bridge to rookie QB Colin Kaepernick, for better or worse. This might be fine news for Vernon Davis, a favored Smith target, but we're guessing it's not great news for the 49ers as a whole."
ESPN Fantasy Projection: Smith, a former No. 1 overall pick, has lost heat off his fastball because of shoulder surgery, is jittery in the pocket and has never conquered the accuracy problems that have plagued him since day one. But Jim Harbaugh has decided to use Smith as a bridge to rookie QB Colin Kaepernick, for better or worse. This might be fine news for Vernon Davis, a favored Smith target, but we're guessing it's not great news for the 49ers as a whole.

yeah, clearly those attributes only affect fantasy football matchups and won't factor in at all in the NFL game
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
"Smith played pretty well. The playcalling was conservative. We have no idea why it was conservative, and can only guess as to the motivations behind the playcalling (if we aren't taking the player's and coach quotes as being legitimate). Smith made enough plays that they won the game. He made some nice throws, and missed a few as well. One game doesn't change the overall view of Smith, but if he can string a number of games like the last one (with perhaps more production as the offense opens up) then my mind coiuld begin to slowly change. I doubt that will happen because of past performance, but I can see why it would make sense for some to think things could change with a new coach and system."

I can only DREAM of such a logical, reasonable response in Niner Talk.

You don't have to dream, it really happened. However, I might suggest that we erect a monument in honor of this occassion to serve as a reminder, through the ages, when such logic shall surely again be forgotten.
Originally posted by aman49:
That was Alex's passer rating today.

I'd love to hear what people have to say about that.

That's what we need to do with him. No mistakes. Build Confidence.

I predict that Harbaugh keeps it very close to the vest and conservative through the Bye Week. The only team that can light us up is Philly (maybe Dallas), so no need to open it up.

During the Bye, Alex gets two weeks to go over tape, make corrections, and come out firing against cleveland and the rough patch we have in the schedule after that (@Was, NYG, @BAL)
i cant believe there are 70 pages on this

let this thread die please
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