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Tolzien vs. Kaepernick

Tolzein should be ready to start sooner than Kaep simply because of the offenses they ran in college. As for their amount of talent, too early to tell. Personally, I like Tolzein, being the Badgers homer I am.
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't know. The only weakness at OL that year was Kwame. Battle = Morgan and we all have seen what Lloyd can do. Gore is Gore even though he was a backup. You can say our OC was better in 2005 since he has a ring to prove it.

This offensive talent in 2011 appears to be talented, but it is still unproven.

you must be forgetting Anthony Clement. and the other starting WR was Morton.
2005 4 different QB's played: 48 sacks
2010 2 QB's palyed: 44 sacks

2005 Rushing: 3.9 but Gore had 4.8
2010 rushing: 4.1 Gore had 4.2

The teams weren't that far off. Kaep may not have looked great in preseason, but he sure looked better than rookie Alex Smith who would not let the ball go.

SO you are saying that Alex Smith was a giant sized turd, and Kaep was a medium sized turd with a few sprinkles mixed in?

Turd is Turd.

I think Kaep is more of a shart since he actually used his mobility and instincts.
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
SO you are saying that Alex Smith was a giant sized turd, and Kaep was a medium sized turd with a few sprinkles mixed in?

Turd is Turd.

I didn't catch 49er preseason games when Smitty was a rook, but Kaep really looked bad, so Alex must have looked like a H.S QB theN?
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
I didn't catch 49er preseason games when Smitty was a rook, but Kaep really looked bad, so Alex must have looked like a H.S QB theN?

Alex Smith looked like a fan that had just stepped on the football field to play QB.

He looked THAT bad.
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Should Alex Smith not become the next Joe Montana just because of Harbaugh and Roman I bet our starting QB will be a competition of Tolzien and Josh Johnson. Completely different QB styles but I'm calling it right now. Tolzien V. Johnson for our starting gig in 2012. Kaepernick will challenge for starting gig in 2013 and no sooner.
Originally posted by sfout:
Should Alex Smith not become the next Joe Montana just because of Harbaugh and Roman I bet our starting QB will be a competition of Tolzien and Josh Johnson. Completely different QB styles but I'm calling it right now. Tolzien V. Johnson for our starting gig in 2012. Kaepernick will challenge for starting gig in 2013 and no sooner.

I could see Kaep being converted to Wr or something at some point, I'm probably way off but he doesn't really look like a QB to me. Granted what a QB "looks like" is changing now.

I'm excited about Tolzein, and I feel we will draft another Qb next year.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't know. The only weakness at OL that year was Kwame. Battle = Morgan and we all have seen what Lloyd can do. Gore is Gore even though he was a backup. You can say our OC was better in 2005 since he has a ring to prove it.

This offensive talent in 2011 appears to be talented, but it is still unproven.

you must be forgetting Anthony Clement. and the other starting WR was Morton.
2005 4 different QB's played: 48 sacks
2010 2 QB's palyed: 44 sacks

2005 Rushing: 3.9 but Gore had 4.8
2010 rushing: 4.1 Gore had 4.2

The teams weren't that far off. Kaep may not have looked great in preseason, but he sure looked better than rookie Alex Smith who would not let the ball go.

yeah, we still suck(ed, last year), and that's the real sobering thing about it. And I'm not saying that our backups now could beat our starters then, but any quick glance at the rosters of today and 2005 and you'll see a much more talented team in red and gold today.
Originally posted by HessianDud:
yeah, we still suck(ed, last year), and that's the real sobering thing about it. And I'm not saying that our backups now could beat our starters then, but any quick glance at the rosters of today and 2005 and you'll see a much more talented team in red and gold today.

2005 team wore like maroon and greenish gold imo.
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
yeah, we still suck(ed, last year), and that's the real sobering thing about it. And I'm not saying that our backups now could beat our starters then, but any quick glance at the rosters of today and 2005 and you'll see a much more talented team in red and gold today.

2005 team wore like maroon and greenish gold imo.

i honestly couldn't tell what they were wearing, because there was still vomit caked to my tv screen from 2004.
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Tolzien looks more composed presently. But they are both very young.
[ Edited by Envy on Sep 9, 2011 at 12:14 PM ]
Kaep was a 2nd rounder on a short camp. Cam Newton wasn't any better and he was the #1 overall. We have Harbaugh, so we will see as their shouldn't be any problems in theory.
Originally posted by HessianDud:
i honestly couldn't tell what they were wearing, because there was still vomit caked to my tv screen from 2004.