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Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

NFL admits bad spot gave 49ers five free yards Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2011, 12:02 PM EDT
APThe NFL has acknowledged that the 49ers' game-winning drive in the fourth quarter in Detroit on Sunday was aided by the officials spotting the ball at the Lions' 35-yard line to start the drive, when it should have been spotted at the 40.

The drive began when San Francisco's Ted Ginn returned a punt to the Lions' 40. When the 49ers' offense took the field after a commercial break, the ball was inexplicably at the 35.

"The officiating crew incorrectly spotted the ball at the Detroit 35 instead of the 40 where Ted Ginn went out of bounds," the league office acknowledged in a statement, via Mike Sando of ESPN.com.

Obviously, the mistake is inexcusable. And the officiating throughout this game was a mess.

The Lions had several complaints about the officiating in the game, which they ultimately lost 25-19. Others included wrongly ruling that Matthew Stafford's forward progress had been stopped in the end zone on a safety, a bad call on a horse-collar tackle and a questionable chop block flag on Lions tight end Brandon Pettigrew.

The chop block was particularly costly to the Lions, as it wiped out a 15-yard pass down to the 49ers' 8-yard line. Instead of having first-and-goal at the 8, the Lions had second-and-25 at the 38, and they ended up settling for a 52-yard field goal attempt, which they missed. That miss gave the 49ers great field position for their own 55-yard field goal on the last play of the first half. In a game that would be decided by six points, that exchange was critical.

But questionable calls on penalties happen all the time. What doesn't happen all the time is the officials getting a spot wrong by five yards.

At least, we hope it doesn't happen all the time. Considering that none of the officials noticed, the Lions didn't notice, the TV announcers didn't notice and no members of the media noticed until after the fact, maybe bad calls like this happen more often than we realize.

I seriously don't give a sh*t. The NFL owed us a lot more in previous year. We are getting our makeup calls this year

It's the least the league could do for taking away that TD (Smith to Crabs) in CIN.

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

NFL admits bad spot gave 49ers five free yards Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2011, 12:02 PM EDT
APThe NFL has acknowledged that the 49ers' game-winning drive in the fourth quarter in Detroit on Sunday was aided by the officials spotting the ball at the Lions' 35-yard line to start the drive, when it should have been spotted at the 40.

The drive began when San Francisco's Ted Ginn returned a punt to the Lions' 40. When the 49ers' offense took the field after a commercial break, the ball was inexplicably at the 35.

"The officiating crew incorrectly spotted the ball at the Detroit 35 instead of the 40 where Ted Ginn went out of bounds," the league office acknowledged in a statement, via Mike Sando of ESPN.com.

Obviously, the mistake is inexcusable. And the officiating throughout this game was a mess.

The Lions had several complaints about the officiating in the game, which they ultimately lost 25-19. Others included wrongly ruling that Matthew Stafford's forward progress had been stopped in the end zone on a safety, a bad call on a horse-collar tackle and a questionable chop block flag on Lions tight end Brandon Pettigrew.

The chop block was particularly costly to the Lions, as it wiped out a 15-yard pass down to the 49ers' 8-yard line. Instead of having first-and-goal at the 8, the Lions had second-and-25 at the 38, and they ended up settling for a 52-yard field goal attempt, which they missed. That miss gave the 49ers great field position for their own 55-yard field goal on the last play of the first half. In a game that would be decided by six points, that exchange was critical.

But questionable calls on penalties happen all the time. What doesn't happen all the time is the officials getting a spot wrong by five yards.

At least, we hope it doesn't happen all the time. Considering that none of the officials noticed, the Lions didn't notice, the TV announcers didn't notice and no members of the media noticed until after the fact, maybe bad calls like this happen more often than we realize.

I love that PFT has questioned the safety call consistently without ever mentioning that it was, at best, intentional grounding, which is still a safety. They need to STFU and EAD.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
J. Smith 'There ain't nothin I can do for ya, son. I'll tell your ma, I sent you off right'

That's John Wayne Cowboy there 100%.

In reviewing the Vanden Bosch -- I don't think he was off-sides, to me, he seems to move right on the snap and cross the line as the snap is going back to Smith. The discouraging thing about the review -- if Staley didn't get owned on a simple outside speed rush -- it looks like Smith had both VD in the seam and the outside receiver break open for potentially big gains.

That could have totally changed the way the game opened, and taken the crowd down a notch.

What I like about this is that JH seems to have called a pretty agressive opening play. Good coaching again!

You might criticize that the play should have planned to give help to Vanden Bosch's side if the throw was to go deep. But I say Staley should have done his job better.

too many joexcuses imo. Staley blew it on that play

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

too many joexcuses imo. Staley blew it on that play

Agreed. He needs to step it up. He has a long way to go before being a franchise LT

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

too many joexcuses imo. Staley blew it on that play

Agreed

I get Mangini's point, but frankly, that is the lamest thing I have heard.

#1. The alignment was man coverage -- no mistake there.
#2. The movement of the inside coverage guy -- back and too the outside -- was the read, not the specific coverage!! As a matter of fact, both coverage guys on that side seem to initially favor covering the outside. What else was Smith supposed to read? The route combination was doing exactly what it was supposed to do, get the inside cover to move back and outside! BECAUSE, Delaney would flash in front of that for the slant.
#3. Regardless of whether this was a disguised coverage or the inside guy read the QB's eyes and broke his coverage back inside, his initial movement back and outside created the lane for the route, the throw, and the forward progress for the TD.

YEAH, after the fact you might say teh coverage was a disguise -- but it is irrelvant to the offensive design and execution!

GIVE ME A BREAK Mangini -- maybe that's why you aren't a HC anymore, you are tooo smart for your own good.

i completely agree. it wasnt a blown read because the initial read..EVERYONE who knows anything about football would have read Man coverage. I dodnt know alex smith was supposed to be psychic and read zone when the play showed man.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
too many joexcuses imo. Staley blew it on that play

This, it took like 2-3 series but the Olinefinally settle down a tiny bit.

Walker said that as soon as he saw the coverage, that he was getting the ball. F U "Mangenious"

Also on the second or third play in which Anthony Davis was called for false start, Delanie was in motion for the Wham play that they shredded the Lions with a couple times later on in the game. They were going for the jugular from the get! I love that!

Yeah D Walk and Alex both said they did everything right and got what they wanted. Crabtree was basically supposed to run the 2 guys off from what I understand. That created the opening for D Walk.

Mangina