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Now when I look at JH's background and what he has been able to do at Stanford & San Diego you can see that he never really focused on (superstar) Athelete's meaning the fastest or the strongest players.
So now he wants to make sure that he is adding "FOOTBALL PLAYERS" and not just superstar fill-in's.
Ted Ginn would probably be the best athlete on the team, however we all know he is not the best football player on the team.
Football player = smart (do as you are coached/play within the system), tough, hungry guys that get it done!
Athlete = Speed, strength, physical ability is off the charts, more ME focused.
Am I right here?
I like this if this is the plan, Because I know he didn't have the best athletes at Stanford or San Diego.
I really hate analogies like this. The best football players are usually the best athletes. Having leadership, good "character" and a clean background are bonuses, they do not make you a good football player whatsoever. The term "football player" is slowly replacing "blue collar". What does this mean? Does anyone honestly believe that Justin Smith or Heinz Ward is not an amazing athlete? Does anyone really believe that T.O. is not a good "football player"? Its a bunch of bulls**t.
Why does a good athlete have to be more ME focused as you say? How does that assumption make any sense?
I don't have a bunch of time to get into it but Usaine Bolt is probably the best athlete in the world physically, however I doubt that he would make a good football player. Meanwhile my 11 year old could probably out run or jump Tom Brady yet he is considered the best Football Player.
Just for the record T.O, & Heinz Ward are trully what a football player is! Attitude and all, T.O has it all!
Justin Smith is a hell of a football player, but an athlete... Come on now!
Tom Brady is athletic. Having a deadly accurate arm is a part of athletics. He is also not the most mobile QB but he isn't Dan Marino either.
Usain Bolt is literally not a football player, so I don't see how that example proves anything.
Your telling me Justin Smith, a 6-5 300 pound man who can run a 4.8 and play non stop all game is not a good athlete? He was a top 5 pick when he was drafted. Show me a top 5 draft pick that does not have a dominant athletic trait and I will shut up.
Justin Smith is a football player!
Ted Ginn is an athlete, there is a huge difference.
So to you speed = athleticism. That is not at all what athleticism is.
Your definition of "football player" is stupid to be quite frank. They are both football players and both phenomenal athletes. Justin Smith is just better at what he does than Ted Ginn.
If you've ever known any person that made it into a pro sport you would realize that all of these guys are phenomenal athletes or they never would have sniffed a pro roster made it. You can't be 300 pounds and expending all of your energy for 60 minutes without being an amazing athlete.
I played in the league, so I know what it takes. The mental toll is much tougher than the physical, there is a reason why they use terms like o-line & skill positions.
I know the fat guy wants to be an athlete but when you look at the term athlete it has always been associated with track & field. You needed to be in a room with Bill Walsh, coach would have showed you the difference in perception vs reality.
Football is the ultimate team sport, the only sport where a bunch unathletic guys can work together to stop the superstar in his tracks! Football is a state of mind, it's a committment!
How can you say J. Smith isnt an amazing athlete? Track and Field doesn't = the best athletes in the world unless you're talking like decathlon or triathlons which still relies on endurance more than athleticism though both are necessary.
There's plenty of speed demons that simply suck at everything else athletically. Athleticism has more to do with body control than speed.
Exactly, and alot of football players would look silly playing other sports! Yet they are great at what they do.
Almost every pro football player would look better than most people playing a different sport. I bet Justin Smith would whoop you in any sport you played.
So you think all football players would look good on a track team or on a baseball or basketball team?