Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Excitement level other years by this time; 90-100%
This year; 65-75%
I am treating this year as an F-the players and owners for treating us, the fans, like chit during this lockout. I will watch from afar, but not a dime spent on anything NFL related.
Your anger should be directed completely at the NFL owners for opting out of the agreement that was in place to funnel more of the revenue to the 30 or so individuals that already received well over %50. You can't get mad at the players for not bending over just because the owners locked them out.
Fight the power.
the owners deserve more of the revenue, it's their business. not one game has been cancelled due to the lockout, the draft went on as planned. dont see how i can get angry at the owners. the only frustrating part is hearing the thousands of different reports coming out.
Lets be very realistic about things. The owners take over %50 of all of the revenue as their own income. They do get way more and they have always gotten way more, that was never in question. They do not deserve any more of my money then they already get. These are also not private businesses these are NFL franchises its not as simple as a normal employer-employee relationship
What is not being factored in is that whatever the owners get they have to pay the other people that help run the team as well as all the expenses from that 50%. It is not 50% of the adjusted gross. After all, Baalke and Jim and company ain't free. Neither are the hotels and plane tickets. Plus they have to pay in to the players medical plans, retirement fund possibly also, I don't know, unless you are privy to such matters, running a business isn't easy. Also, this is not a revenue sharing deal- you can bet Jerry Jones is turning more than a tidy sum, but not all franchises are like his. The cowboy franchise is like the yankees. Not all teams are created equal.
I am not saying the players shouldn't get their money-but they are greedy a$$ to-they want to renegotiate for more, but when did you see them reneg. when they play piss poor? Or do a Coffee?
Its funny how the American dream is supposed to be about working hard to make as much wealth as you can, but when an athlete does it they are greedy a*****es.
You call the players greedy a*****es but I just call them valuable professionals that are trying to get as much money as they can while they still can play. If you had any leverage at your job and felt that someone who was less valuable to your company than you were but was making far more money than you would you just never ask for a raise just because you enjoyed your profession? If they players are greedy a*****es then what exactly would you call the owners?
I'm pretty sure that Nate Clements will restructure to make less because of his poor play. As did Alex Smith in 2008, and countless other instances around the league every year as well.
The players did not opt out of the current agreement to try to negotiate for more money. They owners opted out and offered them far less money. The players simply did not sign the proposed CBA and the owners locked them out to gain leverage. The players don't have to put ink on something that equates to a pay cut just because the owners put it in front of them.
Every franchise can do business differently but the end all be all is that these franchises have to compete to sign the best players they can, if they don't want to pay a certain player there is nothing in any CBA that will force them to
[ Edited by RichmondPete on Jul 21, 2011 at 3:48 PM ]