So we're about to clinch 2nd Seed and some of you folks have run out of things to go into a drama fit about so now it's Kapernick's turn for it.
Jesus someone please stop the torture
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Round 2, #36, the San Francisco 49ers selects Colin Kaepernick (QB) Nevada
Nov 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM
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Nov 28, 2011 at 12:49 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
His delivery is funky, but that doesn't mean he has no future as our starting QB. It is possible to clean up a QB's delivery to a certain extent. Watching him play I honestly don't think it is that big a deal. I still think he is our future starter. Like Afrikan said, his touch and ball placement is very good. Kaep has all the smarts, physical attributes, and leadership skills. The dude is a gamer. Harbaugh will clean up his mechanics in no time.
Disagree on the touch. In PS he threw everything on a line. Also, in the final PS game, he showed his decision-making and ball placement to be far below standard.
I am hopeful about the kid but there are not very many top level QBs in the league that were not first round picks. He was judged to be very raw, needing two years to develop. Harbaugh certainly had some time with him but the fact he is still so far behind tells my it is going to take at least another full TC to get him to game ready.
On a related note; backup QBs are CRITICAL to any team wanting to reach the playoffs. All we have to do to see that is look at the Bears, AZ and KC, add in a few other teams like Seattle, Minne and even Tampa where Freeman has been terrible this season, and we see how important it is that Kaep develop to at least challenge for the job.
Nov 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM
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I'm waiting for the "secret weapon" to be unleashed....as some state.
Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM
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Hopefully Alex stays healthy because even though Harbaugh says he has confidence in him I sure as hell dont
Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:actually this was discussed in the press conference an hour ago.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
His delivery is funky, but that doesn't mean he has no future as our starting QB. It is possible to clean up a QB's delivery to a certain extent. Watching him play I honestly don't think it is that big a deal. I still think he is our future starter. Like Afrikan said, his touch and ball placement is very good. Kaep has all the smarts, physical attributes, and leadership skills. The dude is a gamer. Harbaugh will clean up his mechanics in no time.
Disagree on the touch. In PS he threw everything on a line. Also, in the final PS game, he showed his decision-making and ball placement to be far below standard.
I am hopeful about the kid but there are not very many top level QBs in the league that were not first round picks. He was judged to be very raw, needing two years to develop. Harbaugh certainly had some time with him but the fact he is still so far behind tells my it is going to take at least another full TC to get him to game ready.
On a related note; backup QBs are CRITICAL to any team wanting to reach the playoffs. All we have to do to see that is look at the Bears, AZ and KC, add in a few other teams like Seattle, Minne and even Tampa where Freeman has been terrible this season, and we see how important it is that Kaep develop to at least challenge for the job.
here is my post from the other thread
a reporter brought up Kaep, for a moment I thought he was going to be trying to start some BS and I'm sure Jim did as well. But the reporter actually was going somewhere with his question. Basically talked about how teams around the league have lost their starters and are relying on their Backups. He asked about what Jim sees in Kaep through out the week, what is he doing. What his improvements. Does he get regular reps, and not only scout team ones.
Jim basically said Kaep prepares each week as if he were to start. And he does get regular reps. And that he has shown improvements on everything. And the reporter asked if he is confident in Kaep if he were needed to start, and Jim said yes.
now sure that could all be Jim just backing his players...like he does with Chilo and others.....but I think if he was indeed worried about the backup position this late in the season, he would've brought someone in. Seems like does have genuine confidence in Kaep if he were needed to start. So that is good to know, I mean some of us here expected that...but hearing it from Jim this late in the season reassures us on the issue.
I really believe it is VERY important to have a good backup QB...one who could be a starter for other teams. I was very disappointed when Sing/Scott traded Shaun Hill for a 7th round pick, and brought in David Carr as our backup for that season...soooooo stupid. right now, Bears along with other teams are in trouble. Packers seem to be in a good position with Flynn. And of course, Imo, Lions are in a good position if their starter goes down with Hill backing him up.
Nov 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by dj43:actually this was discussed in the press conference an hour ago.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
His delivery is funky, but that doesn't mean he has no future as our starting QB. It is possible to clean up a QB's delivery to a certain extent. Watching him play I honestly don't think it is that big a deal. I still think he is our future starter. Like Afrikan said, his touch and ball placement is very good. Kaep has all the smarts, physical attributes, and leadership skills. The dude is a gamer. Harbaugh will clean up his mechanics in no time.
Disagree on the touch. In PS he threw everything on a line. Also, in the final PS game, he showed his decision-making and ball placement to be far below standard.
I am hopeful about the kid but there are not very many top level QBs in the league that were not first round picks. He was judged to be very raw, needing two years to develop. Harbaugh certainly had some time with him but the fact he is still so far behind tells my it is going to take at least another full TC to get him to game ready.
On a related note; backup QBs are CRITICAL to any team wanting to reach the playoffs. All we have to do to see that is look at the Bears, AZ and KC, add in a few other teams like Seattle, Minne and even Tampa where Freeman has been terrible this season, and we see how important it is that Kaep develop to at least challenge for the job.
here is my post from the other thread
a reporter brought up Kaep, for a moment I thought he was going to be trying to start some BS and I'm sure Jim did as well. But the reporter actually was going somewhere with his question. Basically talked about how teams around the league have lost their starters and are relying on their Backups. He asked about what Jim sees in Kaep through out the week, what is he doing. What his improvements. Does he get regular reps, and not only scout team ones.
Jim basically said Kaep prepares each week as if he were to start. And he does get regular reps. And that he has shown improvements on everything. And the reporter asked if he is confident in Kaep if he were needed to start, and Jim said yes.
now sure that could all be Jim just backing his players...like he does with Chilo and others.....but I think if he was indeed worried about the backup position this late in the season, he would've brought someone in. Seems like does have genuine confidence in Kaep if he were needed to start. So that is good to know, I mean some of us here expected that...but hearing it from Jim this late in the season reassures us on the issue.
I really believe it is VERY important to have a good backup QB...one who could be a starter for other teams. I was very disappointed when Sing/Scott traded Shaun Hill for a 7th round pick, and brought in David Carr as our backup for that season...soooooo stupid. right now, Bears along with other teams are in trouble. Packers seem to be in a good position with Flynn. And of course, Imo, Lions are in a good position if their starter goes down with Hill backing him up.
I was out of the office so I didn't hear the presser.
My take is that Harbaugh is always going to protect the player. That is just Jim being Jim. So while that takes nothing away from Kaepernick, I cannot take it as a ringing endorsement until I see it on the field.
As to bringing in another QB, I just don't see anyone out there. Palmer was the only one of any value at all and his price was VERY high. When there is serious talk around Houston of trying to talk Favre into playing again, it tells you how weak the pool of available talent is.
Nov 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM
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Sit back and enjoy my penetrating line of questioning and Harbaugh's insightful answers . . .
Q: What have you seen on the practice field the last 11, 12 weeks from Colin Kaepernick? What's he doing out there? What's he doing in the meeting room? How is he progressing?Harbaugh: "Uh, he's progressing well. He's . . . what's he doing? He's, uh, he's preparing himself to play each and every week. Every week's a sprint for him as well."
Q: Is he getting reps with the offense or is it pretty much just the scout team?Harbaugh: "He's getting both."
Q: Without having seen him in a game, where has he made the biggest strides that you can tell?Harbaugh: "He's made strides in just about every area."
Q: Every week you see backup quarterbacks being called upon, how would you feel about sending him out there?Harbaugh: "Uh, I'd be confident in him."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Harbaugh-quizzed-on-Kaepernicks-developm?blockID=601992&feedID=5884
Nov 28, 2011 at 1:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Sit back and enjoy my penetrating line of questioning and Harbaugh's insightful answers . . .
Q: What have you seen on the practice field the last 11, 12 weeks from Colin Kaepernick? What's he doing out there? What's he doing in the meeting room? How is he progressing?Harbaugh: "Uh, he's progressing well. He's . . . what's he doing? He's, uh, he's preparing himself to play each and every week. Every week's a sprint for him as well."
Q: Is he getting reps with the offense or is it pretty much just the scout team?Harbaugh: "He's getting both."
Q: Without having seen him in a game, where has he made the biggest strides that you can tell?Harbaugh: "He's made strides in just about every area."
Q: Every week you see backup quarterbacks being called upon, how would you feel about sending him out there?Harbaugh: "Uh, I'd be confident in him."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Harbaugh-quizzed-on-Kaepernicks-developm?blockID=601992&feedID=5884
Get coached up and be ready to compete for a starting spot next year.
Nov 28, 2011 at 2:08 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Sit back and enjoy my penetrating line of questioning and Harbaugh's insightful answers . . .
Q: What have you seen on the practice field the last 11, 12 weeks from Colin Kaepernick? What's he doing out there? What's he doing in the meeting room? How is he progressing?Harbaugh: "Uh, he's progressing well. He's . . . what's he doing? He's, uh, he's preparing himself to play each and every week. Every week's a sprint for him as well."
Q: Is he getting reps with the offense or is it pretty much just the scout team?Harbaugh: "He's getting both."
Q: Without having seen him in a game, where has he made the biggest strides that you can tell?Harbaugh: "He's made strides in just about every area."
Q: Every week you see backup quarterbacks being called upon, how would you feel about sending him out there?Harbaugh: "Uh, I'd be confident in him."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Harbaugh-quizzed-on-Kaepernicks-developm?blockID=601992&feedID=5884
Get coached up and be ready to compete for a starting spot next year.
I honestly believe this kid is gonna surprise a lot of people next preseason.
Nov 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Hopefully Alex stays healthy because even though Harbaugh says he has confidence in him I sure as hell dont
Neither do I. We should start Alex for another 2 years, kaep is a project QB he's not ready to start, but I think he will be Cam Newton-like when he does
Nov 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
I honestly believe this kid is gonna surprise a lot of people next preseason.
He did look good against a pathetic Tampa team
Nov 28, 2011 at 2:44 PM
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:That's my dream scenario SP. That come next preseason Kaep plays so well the team has no choice but to start him.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Sit back and enjoy my penetrating line of questioning and Harbaugh's insightful answers . . .
Q: What have you seen on the practice field the last 11, 12 weeks from Colin Kaepernick? What's he doing out there? What's he doing in the meeting room? How is he progressing?Harbaugh: "Uh, he's progressing well. He's . . . what's he doing? He's, uh, he's preparing himself to play each and every week. Every week's a sprint for him as well."
Q: Is he getting reps with the offense or is it pretty much just the scout team?Harbaugh: "He's getting both."
Q: Without having seen him in a game, where has he made the biggest strides that you can tell?Harbaugh: "He's made strides in just about every area."
Q: Every week you see backup quarterbacks being called upon, how would you feel about sending him out there?Harbaugh: "Uh, I'd be confident in him."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Harbaugh-quizzed-on-Kaepernicks-developm?blockID=601992&feedID=5884
Get coached up and be ready to compete for a starting spot next year.
I honestly believe this kid is gonna surprise a lot of people next preseason.
I trust JH and pray he and Baalke got the QBotf when picking Kaep.
As for his delivery, while it may look odd it's really on par with the norm when timed from start to finish. Sports science did a segment on that subject and not only is his motion not off the norm, but the time from start to ball hitting target was faster with Kaep than any other rookie QB coming out this past season.
Nov 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM
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Baalke: "Guys that throw from the same arm angle and same foot setting...those are the guys that need everything right around them. Colin can do it from different angles and positions"
This is the biggest difference between Colin and Alex in a nutshell.
This is the biggest difference between Colin and Alex in a nutshell.
[ Edited by Joecool on Nov 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM ]
Nov 28, 2011 at 3:01 PM
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you quoted the wrong post Joecool. change it before some get the wrong impression.
I think that video with Baakle is great inside info we are not used to hearing, and more should see it.
I think that video with Baakle is great inside info we are not used to hearing, and more should see it.
Nov 28, 2011 at 3:14 PM
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here is the video you meant to post.
I really believe Baalke did not want to initially bring Alex back, but with the hold out and Jim convincing him...he changed his mind.
after the season, when he got the job and he was on the radio station about what he expected out of the QB position, it seemed for sure he was not a fan of Alex...or at least Alex's play on the field.
I really believe Baalke did not want to initially bring Alex back, but with the hold out and Jim convincing him...he changed his mind.
after the season, when he got the job and he was on the radio station about what he expected out of the QB position, it seemed for sure he was not a fan of Alex...or at least Alex's play on the field.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Nov 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM ]