Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
I don't think my TV can take another year of Alex Smith...
Seriously though, if Alex starts, there is no way I'm renewing my NFL Sunday ticket. I'm sick of paying so much to watch our team lose year after year...
Exactly. It's just better to move on and start over. However, if the CBA doesn't get resolved, then I obviously want him back. But if there is a FA period in the next couple months, I'd like the team to look outside the roster for our QB.
I just don't think he's a good fit for the WCO and would rather see any QB with an upside get the reps or a vet that already knows the system start. Most of us know Alex isn't the answer. If we brought him back, it would be for only one season; and we all know how well Alex does in his first, or even second, season of a new system.
There are always a few, on the decline, veteran QBs available each year. I'm sure we could find a much better stopgap WCO QB as we develop a rookie for the future...
Who? What would they cost?
We've been through this examination ad nauseum and there are just no reasonable options out there. Without sacrificing a 1st round draft pick, or at the very best, the #45 overall pick (2nd round) there just aren't any decent QBs available.
Does anyone really think Carson Palmer is worth either of those picks? Orton? Kolb?
Johnson might be available, but at what price?
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Who would have thought Troy Smith would have been cut last year????? How about all the Vet QB trades? Mcnabb, Rosenfels, etc...
The point is that a handful of QB's that are not currently being talked about in trade circles will be traded or cut or somehow become available. What you have been examining "ad nauseum" is the players that are known to be available or rumored about. Other options will present themselves in time...
Now, I'd rather go with a guy that knows the WCO on the decline than a guy who sucks at picking up a new season for our one year stop gap QB... That would be McNabb or maybe even Bulger or some other surprise WCO QB cut or trade.
Smith = Fail and I want the Niners to Win!!!
I don't see any "vet" QBs out there, apart from Orton, who are worth more than a 4th...and I am not very crazy about starting the season with a 4th round draft pick level guy.
As to the issue of "picking up the offense," that has been pretty well debunked here. If Smith could pick up the Martz offense in one off-season I'm pretty sure he would have no trouble recalling what he learned from McCarthy and adding in Harbaugh's tweaks.
Thats the problem he did not p/u Martz offense, that is why Hill was placed in front of him when the season started.
Alex got hurt in the preseason and JTO started that year and Smith was going to be the #2 and Hill the #3.
My goof-was thinking of JTO-point is even though he got hurt Smith was not the man even if he didn't get hurt, people who backed Smith were complaining it was not a fair shake, then Hill came along and took it away from Alex. In the following year. Martz didn't think Smith had what it takes. When all is said and done-I am willing to bet Turner-who smith had his best year (which is not saying much) will say that Smith is not a QB you can ride on.
Why does everyone say that Alex had his best year under Norv? He didn't. He looked awful compared to even last year and this year. This year especially he was much better in the pocket, and in making reads. His QB rating was higher, he was more in control of the offense... these arguments on both sides are just more proof of how many times things are regurgitated, spun, and codified without USING YOUR BRAIN. I mean that on both sides too. I have seen supporters use 2006 and say it was his best season. Guess what? He looked horrible for a good part of 2006, but was only better because in 2005 he was maybe the worst rookie Starting QB of all time.
To say that He hasn't improved shows no lack of football or QB understanding. He has improved an incredible amount since 2006 in almost every facet of the game. He has improved to the point where he is at least a servicable starting QB in the league who still possesses some upside.