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Is Crabtree Overrated ?

Is Crabtree Overrated ?

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Would you consider Fitzgerald over rated? He surely is not having a good season. The QB has a lot to do with the success of the WR's which we have lacked for years.

Andrew Luck 2011!

if the ball touches Fitz's hands he catches it

Not really did you watch their game today? Ball location and chemistry with QB is crucial. Davis had drops, Ginn had drops you guys make too much of this he's the best WR we got too bad our QB situation is terrible and has been for years.

Crabs drops more then he should and his "tips" caused the VAST majority of INT's this year.

Fitz goes 100% every play, Crabs does not.

Your opinion on Crabs but I see him blocking for Wr's and his effort is good not great. U make him seem like randy moss out there. We should appreciate him cause look at the WR's out there that lead in drops.

NFL Leaders
Passing:
NFL | NFC | AFC

Pass Dropped
Rank Player Team Stats
1 Reggie Wayne Ind 10 probowler
2 Terrell Owens Cin 9 probowler
3t Brent Celek Phi 8
3t Stevie Johnson Buf 8
3t Chad Ochocinco Cin 8 probowler
6t Miles Austin Dal 7 probowler
6t Pierre Garcon Ind 7
6t Brandon Gibson StL 7
6t Tony Gonzalez Atl 7 probowler
6t Aaron Hernandez NE 7
6t Andre Johnson Hou 7 probowler
6t Brandon Marshall Mia 7 probowler
6t Wes Welker NE 7 probowler
14t Steve Breaston Ari 6
14t Arian Foster Hou 6 probowler
14t Devin Hester Chi 6
14t Fred Jackson Buf 6
14t Randy Moss Ten 6 probowler
14t Brandon Pettigrew Det 6
14t Steve Smith Car 6 probowler
14t Mike Williams TB 6
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when he makes the probowl for proving he is great, then he will get a pass for dropping some balls
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
I wonder if there's something personal between AS and Crabtree...

I think I remember Crabtree kinda hinting at talking trash and never seemed to be in the game until Troy was playing.

Yeah, like 4 or 5 Ints' worth of something.

I find it laughable that people say that Tree started performing better with Troy.

Yeah he got that grab in the End Zone in the last Loss. But it should have been overturned. Only McCarthy didn't challenge it. Didn't matter to them none anyway, right?

The point is Tree was no more productive with Troy than with Alex.

IMHO, If I throw you the ball and you fail when the ball is in your bubble and you do this consistently, I won't be throwing in your direction much later in the season. Tree fell on his face 4 times costing the QB turnovers. Turnovers that got him booed by the fans. He also tipped 2 of them into the hands of the Defenders. One of them caromed off his own Shoulder pad. Now he's not the only reason Alex was not back on the field after getting healthy, but if I'm Alex and I know you ain't doing you're job and you're making me look bad? Yeah, I'm gonna go out of my way to throw more in your direction. Not.

I don't hate Tree, it's too early to tell one way or the other. But at this point in THIS season Tree didn't do him or his QBs' any favors. A true WR1 will get their catches be damned what the Defense does to stop them. Tree is not at that level yet. Hope he gets there but this season is not encouraging.

~Ceadder

I dont think we can judge Crabtree until year 6

he has had two different coordinators in two years

and at least 4 different qbs

Its only fair



If the ball HITS YOU IN THE GODDAM HANDS THEN YOU CATCH IT!

I'm not saying he's overrated. I'm saying that he's unprepared. Don't take shots at me just cause you're unhappy that Alex has gotten more time than you would give him. Be honest, no Super Bowl by year two you want to move on. Don't tell me I'm wrong either cause I believe you were one of Vernon's critics.

I love how someone comes to a thread about another guy who doesn't know how to be a Pro and then tells the one guy being fair that he has to be fair. That's crazy talk chief.

~Ceadder

uh no

I've supported everyone until this year

Crabtree isnt overrated, this whole offensive system and the qbs running it suck.

Lets keep running wr screens though..they always seem to work.

Okay cool you supported everybody. My bad.

I never said Tree was overrated either. Not everyone in here is saying that.

But isn't it funny that you say our QBs' suck, but then point out the WR Screen. Damn someone needs to tell Alex make sure not to call for that play. Oh wait, the NFL doesn't have a Mic in the Helmets only a speaker right?

Oh wait I get it now he's signaling for the plays from the field.

~Ceadder
Up to this point, yes. He really needs to develop in the next year. To be fair though I think the conservative play calling hasn't helped him much. He does have plenty of things to work on that for sure.
^i did say offensive system and qb's suck
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Would you consider Fitzgerald over rated? He surely is not having a good season. The QB has a lot to do with the success of the WR's which we have lacked for years.

Andrew Luck 2011!

if the ball touches Fitz's hands he catches it

Not really did you watch their game today? Ball location and chemistry with QB is crucial. Davis had drops, Ginn had drops you guys make too much of this he's the best WR we got too bad our QB situation is terrible and has been for years.

Crabs drops more then he should and his "tips" caused the VAST majority of INT's this year.

Fitz goes 100% every play, Crabs does not.

Your opinion on Crabs but I see him blocking for Wr's and his effort is good not great. U make him seem like randy moss out there. We should appreciate him cause look at the WR's out there that lead in drops.

NFL Leaders
Passing:
NFL | NFC | AFC

Pass Dropped
Rank Player Team Stats
1 Reggie Wayne Ind 10 probowler
2 Terrell Owens Cin 9 probowler
3t Brent Celek Phi 8
3t Stevie Johnson Buf 8
3t Chad Ochocinco Cin 8 probowler
6t Miles Austin Dal 7 probowler
6t Pierre Garcon Ind 7
6t Brandon Gibson StL 7
6t Tony Gonzalez Atl 7 probowler
6t Aaron Hernandez NE 7
6t Andre Johnson Hou 7 probowler
6t Brandon Marshall Mia 7 probowler
6t Wes Welker NE 7 probowler
14t Steve Breaston Ari 6
14t Arian Foster Hou 6 probowler
14t Devin Hester Chi 6
14t Fred Jackson Buf 6
14t Randy Moss Ten 6 probowler
14t Brandon Pettigrew Det 6
14t Steve Smith Car 6 probowler
14t Mike Williams TB 6
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Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of STATS LLC is strictly prohibited.

when he makes the probowl for proving he is great, then he will get a pass for dropping some balls

If you think making the Pro-bowl is special then your wrong. You should know better its a popularity contest. Willis is in the pro-bowl but does not deserve it this year his play is down. If you say until he wins a superbowl then I agree but at the same time you should say the same to Alexis Smith he hasn't proven nada.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Would you consider Fitzgerald over rated? He surely is not having a good season. The QB has a lot to do with the success of the WR's which we have lacked for years.

Andrew Luck 2011!

if the ball touches Fitz's hands he catches it

Not really did you watch their game today? Ball location and chemistry with QB is crucial. Davis had drops, Ginn had drops you guys make too much of this he's the best WR we got too bad our QB situation is terrible and has been for years.

Crabs drops more then he should and his "tips" caused the VAST majority of INT's this year.

Fitz goes 100% every play, Crabs does not.

Your opinion on Crabs but I see him blocking for Wr's and his effort is good not great. U make him seem like randy moss out there. We should appreciate him cause look at the WR's out there that lead in drops.

NFL Leaders
Passing:
NFL | NFC | AFC

Pass Dropped
Rank Player Team Stats
1 Reggie Wayne Ind 10 probowler
2 Terrell Owens Cin 9 probowler
3t Brent Celek Phi 8
3t Stevie Johnson Buf 8
3t Chad Ochocinco Cin 8 probowler
6t Miles Austin Dal 7 probowler
6t Pierre Garcon Ind 7
6t Brandon Gibson StL 7
6t Tony Gonzalez Atl 7 probowler
6t Aaron Hernandez NE 7
6t Andre Johnson Hou 7 probowler
6t Brandon Marshall Mia 7 probowler
6t Wes Welker NE 7 probowler
14t Steve Breaston Ari 6
14t Arian Foster Hou 6 probowler
14t Devin Hester Chi 6
14t Fred Jackson Buf 6
14t Randy Moss Ten 6 probowler
14t Brandon Pettigrew Det 6
14t Steve Smith Car 6 probowler
14t Mike Williams TB 6
© 2010 by STATS LLC.
Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of STATS LLC is strictly prohibited.

when he makes the probowl for proving he is great, then he will get a pass for dropping some balls

If you think making the Pro-bowl is special then your wrong. You should know better its a popularity contest. Willis is in the pro-bowl but does not deserve it this year his play is down. If you say until he wins a superbowl then I agree but at the same time you should say the same to Alexis Smith he hasn't proven nada.

all of those guys I pointed out have been to the probowl because they are VERY VERY good. Vernon was very high in drops last year but he played VERY good all around, Crabs is not doing that yet. He is not a threat in any way at this point
I don't think Crabtree is overrated, but I certainly don't think he's consistent enough to be reliable. He made some good catches but I also remember the tip balls for INT while he's crossing the short middle. It happened with Alex Smith at qb and also with Troy Smith.
He will be fine once we get a legit qb and coaching
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He will be fine once we get a legit qb and coaching

you meant to write once the oline provides time for the QB to throw to him right? Also when the ball is thrown to him he has to catch it!!!
Niner Talk being Niner Talk.
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He will be fine once we get a legit qb and coaching

you meant to write once the oline provides time for the QB to throw to him right? Also when the ball is thrown to him he has to catch it!!!

Sure that too, even with time the coaching, and qb suck.
i wonder who's turn it is to be roasted next week
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He will be fine once we get a legit qb and coaching

you meant to write once the oline provides time for the QB to throw to him right? Also when the ball is thrown to him he has to catch it!!!

Sure that too, even with time the coaching, and qb suck.

wanna bet if he'd went to another team with an establish system he'd be killin it? if we can continue like today for the most...he'll come along.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
i wonder who's turn it is to be roasted next week

That's why we are a bad team. There's always someone every week not catching the easy ball, over thrown, missed block, penalty, missed tackle, etc.
Originally posted by craigyboy:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
He will be fine once we get a legit qb and coaching

you meant to write once the oline provides time for the QB to throw to him right? Also when the ball is thrown to him he has to catch it!!!

Sure that too, even with time the coaching, and qb suck.

wanna bet if he'd went to another team with an establish system he'd be killin it? if we can continue like today for the most...he'll come along.

If he was on an established team he would be up there in drops, yards, and receptions. He would be among the top WRs.