Niner fans? Or, Niner followers?

Originally posted by SJniner7:
Is this the closest we have ever been to the playoffs since 2002 in week 12? I can't remember a time in week 12 in the past 8 years where we controlled our own destiny.

If we win out, we go to the playoffs! While it is unlikely, I do not remember a time since our last trip to the playoffs when we have been able to say that in week 12.

I agree that there is still much to be positive about. I do not understand those who wish us to lose for draft position, when we are technically very much still in it!

2006. If Seattle lost on the last day of the season, and if we didn't lose to the cardinals on week 16, we would have made the playoffs. I guess this time is slightly different since we don't have to depend on anyone else losing if we win out at this point.

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:
Is this the closest we have ever been to the playoffs since 2002 in week 12? I can't remember a time in week 12 in the past 8 years where we controlled our own destiny.

If we win out, we go to the playoffs! While it is unlikely, I do not remember a time since our last trip to the playoffs when we have been able to say that in week 12.

I agree that there is still much to be positive about. I do not understand those who wish us to lose for draft position, when we are technically very much still in it!

2006. If Seattle lost on the last day of the season, and if we didn't lose to the cardinals on week 16, we would have made the playoffs. I guess this time is slightly different since we don't have to depend on anyone else losing if we win out at this point.

That was my point. Even if we beat the cardinals, our playoff hopes were tied to SEA.

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:
Is this the closest we have ever been to the playoffs since 2002 in week 12? I can't remember a time in week 12 in the past 8 years where we controlled our own destiny.

If we win out, we go to the playoffs! While it is unlikely, I do not remember a time since our last trip to the playoffs when we have been able to say that in week 12.

I agree that there is still much to be positive about. I do not understand those who wish us to lose for draft position, when we are technically very much still in it!

2006. If Seattle lost on the last day of the season, and if we didn't lose to the cardinals on week 16, we would have made the playoffs. I guess this time is slightly different since we don't have to depend on anyone else losing if we win out at this point.

That was my point. Even if we beat the cardinals, our playoff hopes were tied to SEA.

Yeah, I see it. I'm just pointing out we have been "in it" until late in the season. It sure doesn't feel like we have any control over anything though lol....ugh.

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:
Is this the closest we have ever been to the playoffs since 2002 in week 12? I can't remember a time in week 12 in the past 8 years where we controlled our own destiny.

If we win out, we go to the playoffs! While it is unlikely, I do not remember a time since our last trip to the playoffs when we have been able to say that in week 12.

I agree that there is still much to be positive about. I do not understand those who wish us to lose for draft position, when we are technically very much still in it!

2006. If Seattle lost on the last day of the season, and if we didn't lose to the cardinals on week 16, we would have made the playoffs. I guess this time is slightly different since we don't have to depend on anyone else losing if we win out at this point.

That was my point. Even if we beat the cardinals, our playoff hopes were tied to SEA.

Yeah, I see it. I'm just pointing out we have been "in it" until late in the season. It sure doesn't feel like we have any control over anything though lol....ugh.

I may be singing a different tune after Sunday, but I might as well keep my hopes high until then!

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by SJniner7:
Is this the closest we have ever been to the playoffs since 2002 in week 12? I can't remember a time in week 12 in the past 8 years where we controlled our own destiny.

If we win out, we go to the playoffs! While it is unlikely, I do not remember a time since our last trip to the playoffs when we have been able to say that in week 12.

I agree that there is still much to be positive about. I do not understand those who wish us to lose for draft position, when we are technically very much still in it!

2006. If Seattle lost on the last day of the season, and if we didn't lose to the cardinals on week 16, we would have made the playoffs. I guess this time is slightly different since we don't have to depend on anyone else losing if we win out at this point.

That was my point. Even if we beat the cardinals, our playoff hopes were tied to SEA.

Yeah, I see it. I'm just pointing out we have been "in it" until late in the season. It sure doesn't feel like we have any control over anything though lol....ugh.

I may be singing a different tune after Sunday, but I might as well keep my hopes high until then!

Same here. I'm too much of an idiot to quit on them now.

Originally posted by pannin4gold:
What is going on with Niner talk!?! Am I in the wrong place? Is this not for Niner fans? When did this place get hijacked by pessimistic Niner followers: who are most comfortable booing, hating on the Niners, or proving another Niner fan wrong.

Ok, I will except that part of this zone is for silliness and over-analytical banter, for which I love and enjoy!

But LATELY, I just can’t believe the mass majority of what I’m reading! It’s got so bad that if you have any “over-positive” comments you can expect an onslaught of “point and laughter smilies”, and hate for your optimism. Nope, only pessimism flies now!

- We’ve gone 4-2 in our last six games
- We’ve salvaged an 0-5 start.
- We just pulled within ONE game of the division
- We can still make the playoffs!?!
- We just had our first dominating victory… over our rivals… on the road!
- Like Sing or not, somehow (I have no idea how) we’ve overcome that bad start, something very rare, AND there’s something to be said about that.
- It’d be historic to have a chance (at home) to win a playoff game this year.

And they say…“Yeah, but we suck because…..bla bla bla…..I’m just being rational.”

Being a FAN is a completely IRRATIONAL thing! Why would you continue to watch a team that’s losing? Because they mean more then that to you, and there’s something inspiring about the chance of winning every game!

Yet, going to this zone is like going to a church where most the people are walking around s**tting on the floor!

Of course you can say you disagree with personal, management or strategy. BUT, sometimes you guys loose sight of the fact you’re a fan of the Niners. And, those who HOPE the niners lose, are not fans! To say rooting against your team is for a high draft pick… with 5 games left…. While we’re one game out of first, is disgusting!

You want to be rational? Then go root for the Falcons, Patriots or Jets. Wouldn’t that be more rational? But get out of the NINER Zone! It makes me sick.

Just because you know more about the Niners then any other team does not make you a fan, and a conversation with a real fan has no merit because you just don’t know. You’re just a follower.

I am optimistic as any niner fan, but saying we salvaged or overcame the 0*5 start is probably premature at this point. We are 4-7 afterall if we were 6-5 or maybe 5-6 then maybe you could say that but were not. I'm not sure what to expect the rest of the way. I would love to see us win a game we are not supposed to. Arizona, St. Louis, Denver, and Oakland are hardly powerhouses this year. I'd love to see us beat the Packers or the Chargers besides that the rest of the schedule is pretty soft.

[ Edited by GorefullBore on Dec 2, 2010 at 18:25:39 ]

Originally posted by ninertico:
Hey Pannin!

Keep the faith and don't let the yahoos living here bring you down! Noob or not, you have a deep passion for your Niners win or lose and I respect that.

These guys have been heartbroken so many times by so much incompetence that not even winning 4-2 in a stretch during this season is enough to enjoy let alone celebrate.

There are many here that WISH we lose. I never can fathom that, never.

I agree with them about change needed after the season at certain coaching and player positions, mainly Sing and Alex. Just ask Sus. Then added to the coaches and players, ownership. Huh, SanDiego?

They all have been bashed in the face with our 49ers' downfall of the 2000's especially after Dr. York personally destroyed what assemblance of our past we had.

Therefore, you go on and keep cheering and rooting for our team. I do and will.

Just understand that some can be critical of what is going on while still supporting the team, being a real fan.

Thanks! I was starting to think I was going to get my profile taken away!

It's a good point, I want to say I don't have any problems with people saying we've put the wrong personnel into place or that Alex isn't the best QB or Sing isn't an efficient coach. I just that I'm surprised when people go so far as to not root for their team because they don't agree that x should be in the x position! I guess some people might just be player fans/haters more then Niner fans. I just cheer for whoever' wears the Red/grayish gold!

In addition, I agree that It's convenient to be knowable about your team and football! I take pride in that as well.

It's silly people see a limited amount of posts consider me a noob! My claim to fame is that I was at The Catch II! One of my earliest memories is watching the Niners win the SB in 89. I'm a bona fide Niner geek! I'm just selective with my posts! Should I start posting creative smilies more?!?

I guess I just can't be trusted with "The Sword of a Thousand Truths"

Excellent post pannin4gold. I feel very strongly about your assessment that being a fan involves inviting irrationality into your life--thankfully, we're not Cubs fans or else this would be a really miserable place to be.

My take on it is that we are fans because we want to be. Whether or not our families, friends, or ourselves as individuals took a liking to this team is irrelevant because we find ourselves in a position to share in the collective fortune/misfortune of vicariously winning through the 49ers. I put on my my Gore jersey (almost) every Sunday and attempt to watch the game, if I can, because I desperately want to see the team win and have a shot at being the best at what they do. That's the exhilaration of being a fan: it's an organizational way of being part of something that we have a developed interest in.

Now, while I approach the possibility of a playoff run with a bit of trepidation (The margin of error is slim, it's hard to be skeptical), at the same time, the hope of the unexpected miracle (again, irrationality, but I'm a fan) drives me on to wish the team success. The 49ers aren't doing their job if they tank the season: their goal is to win as many games as possible and to be the best team in the NFL. Whether or not it's under Singletary or some other coach and with Alex Smith or Troy Smith or whoever is at quarterback is irrelevant, because I want them to succeed, plain and simple.

Maybe we get into the playoffs. Maybe we don't, and Singletary is shown the door. But so long as the team is his to coach, I will hold out hope every game day that he comes away with a win. I'll be happy for him and the 49ers.

Good post to the OP. There's alot of bad fans here that would rather tank the season and start over, then root for your team to fight back from a poor start and make the playoffs. You just gotta do your best to wade through the negative garbage and highlight posts like yours. There's still plenty of us faithful out here!

I would rather have a chance to draft Andrew Luck than win this joke of a division. You can go ahead and get excited about winning the NFC West at 7-9 or -8-8 if you want to.

But I have higher expectations for this franchise. As a "fan" for 25 years I know where the standard is set for me. It's much higher than 8-8 and quick exit out of the playoffs.

Championship caliber football year in and year out is what made me. So go ahead and see how far you get with Dingleberry and either Smith at QB.

Originally posted by susweel:
calm down noob

LMAO

welcome to ninertalk man

I wish I could see this as optimistic as some of you. What I'm optimistic about:

* new stadium, eventually
* Patrick Willis to be specific
* Overall talent on the team in general, which I think is way better than our record
* Jed York's intentions to be good and not being a tight wad like his father was
* The prospects of getting Jon Gruden
* Some of our coaches: Manusky, Solari, Dline coach, and hmmm.... that's it.


I'm not feeling good about the fact that we lost to the only team in the league with one win only and that we are 1 game out of first place in one of the worst divisions in NFL history. That's like falling off a log.

it's a free country, i do what i want!!

what's the difference?

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
I would rather have a chance to draft Andrew Luck than win this joke of a division. You can go ahead and get excited about winning the NFC West at 7-9 or -8-8 if you want to.

But I have higher expectations for this franchise. As a "fan" for 25 years I know where the standard is set for me. It's much higher than 8-8 and quick exit out of the playoffs.

Championship caliber football year in and year out is what made me. So go ahead and see how far you get with Dingleberry and either Smith at QB.

SERIOUSLY?

Andrew Luck... whats he done in the pros?I am trying to remember what he's done that made him the next Payton Manning... I mean I remember guys like Alex Smith, Matt Lienart, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, JP Losman, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman... how about Ryan Leaf... oh man I wish we had a shot at him... There were teams that thought he was better than Payton Manning. I would prefer a shot at winning, than a shot at a qb that may or may not ever amount to anything.

There is nothing SURE about Andrew Luck and there is no sure thing that we will get Andrew Luck even if we LOSE. The only sure thing is no decent coach will want to come in here and coach a team that just won 6 games and will be starting a rookie first round QB.

To say that you have "higher expectations" in the same post that you say you would rather lose than win simply makes NO SENSE to me.