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The NFL's # 1 Defense Thread

Originally posted by Loco49er:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Loco49er:
The defense has been showing cracks since the cardinals game. I hope the bye week helps them return to mid season form.

What cracks? We didn't allow a TD to the Steelers and absolutely raped Big Ben (no pun intended), held the Hawks to 17 at home without Pwilly, and their main score coming from the benefit of a blocked punt. As for the last game vs the Rams, I honestly don't know what the f**k happened, but it seemed like we lost focus and got too content with the lead and the season. No way that 2nd half vs the Rams was an implication of our defense.

But yes, I also want them to be in FULL FORM come January 14th. This defense is gonna need to bring its A game against Drew Brees.

exactly, what cracks? D has been stellar this year, we're not gonna hold everyone under 10 points and under 200 yards.

The D is great but they didn't seem as dominant towards the end as they did mid season. I noticed more missed tackles (the rushing TD by Clemens was horrible) that can really hurt the team in the playoffs. Big Ben was hurt and probably shouldn't have played so that was a favorable match up. A long season and Willis being out are definitely factors so I hope the bye week allows them to recharge to full strength. That said, I realize the D is the least of our worries.
I agree. It's almost as if our All World LB, Patrick Willis, totally disappeared.....weird.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Loco49er:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Loco49er:
The defense has been showing cracks since the cardinals game. I hope the bye week helps them return to mid season form.

What cracks? We didn't allow a TD to the Steelers and absolutely raped Big Ben (no pun intended), held the Hawks to 17 at home without Pwilly, and their main score coming from the benefit of a blocked punt. As for the last game vs the Rams, I honestly don't know what the f**k happened, but it seemed like we lost focus and got too content with the lead and the season. No way that 2nd half vs the Rams was an implication of our defense.

But yes, I also want them to be in FULL FORM come January 14th. This defense is gonna need to bring its A game against Drew Brees.

exactly, what cracks? D has been stellar this year, we're not gonna hold everyone under 10 points and under 200 yards.

The D is great but they didn't seem as dominant towards the end as they did mid season. I noticed more missed tackles (the rushing TD by Clemens was horrible) that can really hurt the team in the playoffs. Big Ben was hurt and probably shouldn't have played so that was a favorable match up. A long season and Willis being out are definitely factors so I hope the bye week allows them to recharge to full strength. That said, I realize the D is the least of our worries.
I agree. It's almost as if our All World LB, Patrick Willis, totally disappeared.....weird.

lol.

the bye week was very important for the defense. they needed a week of rest. Come Saturday, they'll show the world that they're the best defense in the NFL.
I want to see them shut down the saints, Im tired of hearing about this video game offense.
OK fans, lets talk defense. I've got a couple concerns for this upcoming Giants game...which is going to be a old-school Giants @ Niner's-type game. Will Montana/Rice/LT be in attendance?

Needless to say we've been giving up HUGE yards in the passing game over the past month+ now; of corse part of that is b/c teams don't even bother to run on us anymore. Teams have been scoring more in the RZ as well and have added a few rushing TD's.

One thing I have noted ALL year and it showed up again against the Saints...rewatch the game...when our LB/S's and CB's come up to the LOS and play physical, aggressive bump/shove guys, we are VERY effective. When receivers (RB/WR/TE's) are allowed to come off the LOS clean, we get destroyed esp. with RAC. The pressure is getting there even with four guys (A.Smith - 15 sacks, J.Smith - 8.5 sacks, A.Brooks - 8 and off the charts in TFL and pressures/QB hits). You wonder why we have had so many missed tackles? It's b/c our safeties are playing 30 yards deep and the receivers are allowed to come free off the LOS and Goldson/Whitner are late running towards the receiver and are juked with RAC.

Another thing I have noticed about our matchups...essentially Colston is their best (only) WR and with only 3/4 rushers, why was he not double-covered all game? Why was Willis covering Graham all game and not Goldson? Why wasn't Willis matched up on Sproles all game. Fangio seems so focused on exotic "coverage schemes" that he isn't, IMHO, playing to our strengths.

The thing that worries me about the Giants is the size of their receivers and size of our DB's. If you watched Brees, almost all of his passes were very high where only his guys could get the ball (and they did).

Giants/Niner games have ALWAYS been VERY physical games. This should be no different but Fangio can't sit back this game and give easy catches playing deep all game and allow free releases. With the rain and wet field and not a ton of speed (but lots of size), he needs to play our secondary tight and physical up and the LOS and get to Eli like we did earlier in the year with 3/4 guys and bring some exotic blitzes right up Baas' ass an get in Eli's face! He will make mistakes. But he'll also make some unbelievably accurate passes. Go Niners!
Hoping Ray Mac can play. He is sooo much more important than anyone realizes.
Originally posted by Byisgod:
Hoping Ray Mac can play. He is sooo much more important than anyone realizes.

I agree...he has been absent d/t injuries and he hasn't been anywhere close to the pressure-guy he was at the beginning of the year.
NCommand--agree and hope that the DLine can get to Manning early. He is not the same QB (who is except Smith) when hit a couple of times. That does require slowing down the running game and short routes. He will likely complete some long passes and that's OK because he usually make a couple of long ball mistakes when he's in bomber mode.

The match up I am looking forward to the most is in the running game. Willis and Bowman getting to their enormous backs will be key. They weren't 100% last game (Bradshaw wasn't playing?) so it might be a bigger task.
I loved the red zone defense yesterday. Against a high powered offense, I was confident that they would be coming up with 3s or turnovers!
bree's got a good chunk of his yards on two missed tackles

DO NOT MISS TACKLES
Originally posted by NCommand:
OK fans, lets talk defense. I've got a couple concerns for this upcoming Giants game...which is going to be a old-school Giants @ Niner's-type game. Will Montana/Rice/LT be in attendance?

lol Hide yo kids, hide yo wife!!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Needless to say we've been giving up HUGE yards in the passing game over the past month+ now; of corse part of that is b/c teams don't even bother to run on us anymore. Teams have been scoring more in the RZ as well and have added a few rushing TD's.

One thing I have noted ALL year and it showed up again against the Saints...rewatch the game...when our LB/S's and CB's come up to the LOS and play physical, aggressive bump/shove guys, we are VERY effective. When receivers (RB/WR/TE's) are allowed to come off the LOS clean, we get destroyed esp. with RAC. The pressure is getting there even with four guys (A.Smith - 15 sacks, J.Smith - 8.5 sacks, A.Brooks - 8 and off the charts in TFL and pressures/QB hits). You wonder why we have had so many missed tackles? It's b/c our safeties are playing 30 yards deep and the receivers are allowed to come free off the LOS and Goldson/Whitner are late running towards the receiver and are juked with RAC.

Another thing I have noticed about our matchups...essentially Colston is their best (only) WR and with only 3/4 rushers, why was he not double-covered all game? Why was Willis covering Graham all game and not Goldson? Why wasn't Willis matched up on Sproles all game. Fangio seems so focused on exotic "coverage schemes" that he isn't, IMHO, playing to our strengths.

The thing that worries me about the Giants is the size of their receivers and size of our DB's. If you watched Brees, almost all of his passes were very high where only his guys could get the ball (and they did).

Giants/Niner games have ALWAYS been VERY physical games. This should be no different but Fangio can't sit back this game and give easy catches playing deep all game and allow free releases. With the rain and wet field and not a ton of speed (but lots of size), he needs to play our secondary tight and physical up and the LOS and get to Eli like we did earlier in the year with 3/4 guys and bring some exotic blitzes right up Baas' ass an get in Eli's face! He will make mistakes. But he'll also make some unbelievably accurate passes. Go Niners!


I think the biggest thing is who makes the biggest mistakes, who forces the turnovers. Whoever comes out on top there will be the winner. The Packers made a LOT of mistakes against the Giants, I don't think the 49ers will.
[ Edited by KowboyKiller on Jan 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM ]
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by NCommand:
OK fans, lets talk defense. I've got a couple concerns for this upcoming Giants game...which is going to be a old-school Giants @ Niner's-type game. Will Montana/Rice/LT be in attendance?

lol Hide yo kids, hide yo wife!!

LOL...Totally!
The Saints Had Jimmy Graham

The Giants Have Bear Pascoe

Big Difference, especially because Graham got those 2 TDs
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The Saints Had Jimmy Graham

The Giants Have Bear Pascoe

Big Difference, especially because Graham got those 2 TDs

well to be fair, they have Jake Ballard. But yes i agree, Graham is a much more potent weapon.
greatest D ever. no homer.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
bree's got a good chunk of his yards on two missed tackles

DO NOT MISS TACKLES

#31 should've made the tackle on both of those too. Our safeties are great at laying the BOOM, but when they whiff, it's usually for a TD.
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