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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
A little too many missed tackles last night for me. That can't continued into the playoff.


Wright commented on Comcast that this has been a growing problem lately...going for the hit instead of wrapping up. Seems like the attention Goldson is getting for big hits is making every DB want to be a hitter rather than a tackler. Also mentioned it could be the league crackdown on illegal hits inhibiting tacklers--though ithe two notions seem contradictory..

Missed tackles killed us in the Cards game against Fritz late in the game. Goldson tried to make a knock out hit on a play last night. Ended up missing altogether and hit his own player who was making the tackle on the receiver. Luckily his team mate just got enough of the Steeler player to get him on the ground before being hit by Goldson. They need to calm down with trying to make the big hit on national TV.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by johnnyredneat:
Originally posted by lamontb:
After watching last night's game I've come to the conclusion that the reason they don't see more blitzes is b/c these guys suck at blitzing. Every time they blitzed they never got to big ben. Grant was always stonewalled by the running back, and i seen one safety blitz that was too slow to develop.

But at some point they have to get more out of the starting OLB if they are going to be a base 3-4 team. Brooks and Parys need to turn it up.

But last night's performance was simply amazing. considering that I thought Brooks and Parys both had bad games. Parys couldn't tackle for s**t last night. The whole d line should be saluted b/c they were busting folks asses.

Aldon's had work is a thing of beauty. and that bull rush dam near makes me want to cry. Those stunts worked beautifully b/c Justin smith occupied 2 blockers. and the secondary did a much better job in teh 2nd half in overall coverage on the back in. some of those sacks were due to tight coverage.

I was about to write the same thing. Also thought that Bowman struggled as much as he ever has this year and was outplayed by Larry Grant. Still, even with 3 of 4 starting LBs having subpar games we held them under control with ease. Pretty astounding.

I agree you two...need to watch the game again more closely though but Parys hasn't been much of anything since the first game; he did force a couple critical fumbles early on. But since then (sounds of crickets). The Steelers did a great job with formations getting Brooks isolated for underneath coverage. The problem was that he never had any over-the-top help; safeties were very late to get over. I hope Seattle doesn't exploit this issue we had last night. Brooks was stellar against the run (7 tackles and 1 TFL - leads team) and there were no runs off-tackle to his side as always. But he does need to turn up the pass rush more esp. now that ALDON is getting doubled more now. I would like to see some more inside stunts with McDonald or having Aldon line up at SAM and Brooks inside at TED and blitz; that's been very effective this year but we rarely do it.

Watching the game in person, I thought our safties played deeper than usual. In fact, I commented to the guy sitting next to me, how deep Goldson was playing. I think the Niners were very concerned with the speed of Pitts Wrs. I dont think we'll see the same type of respect for Seattle, so I dont expect those same plays to be there. That's just a guess, though.


P.S. I agree that everyone is going for the big if, if not the INT. This cost us in the Tards game, big time.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Dec 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM ]
Justin was all over the field as usual! He was anywhere from five yards deep making tackles on the opposite side, to chomping on the QBs tail. He and Aldon are an awesome combination. Unfair to ask the others to play this way as they just don't have the talent (or drive?).
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Dec 20, 2011 at 9:15 PM ]
don't know if this was already mentioned:



through 14 games the 49ers have allowed 7 rushing ATTEMPTS inside of their own 5 yard line.
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[ Edited by 49erfeeeever808 on Dec 21, 2011 at 1:24 AM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Watching the game in person, I thought our safties played deeper than usual. In fact, I commented to the guy sitting next to me, how deep Goldson was playing. I think the Niners were very concerned with the speed of Pitts Wrs. I dont think we'll see the same type of respect for Seattle, so I dont expect those same plays to be there. That's just a guess, though.


P.S. I agree that everyone is going for the big if, if not the INT. This cost us in the Tards game, big time.

I noticed that too! And I agree, the Hawks WR's dont' pose a similar threat. And even if the Hawks do try to isolate an OLB on a TE up the sideline, hopefully, our safeties will be in closer proximity to make an INT or defend the pass better. The Steelers did a nice job with their formations to isolate their weapons.

Big time...esp. Goldson. The guy was missing everything, trying for the big hit. Part of this was b/c of what you observed - they were playing so deep and arriving late. After quite a few misses he finally just focused on making the tackle. Whitner was also suspect but not as salient.

Thanks for the at-the-game perspective!
Quick question.. We all do realize just how amazing of a D this is right? And that it has the potential to steal us some big games in the playoffs and get that trophy, and this is a serious reality.

Opposing teams are averaging 70 yards rushing per game against us(1001 total), that's 20 yards less than the 2nd place team, and NOT ONE TEAM has scored a rushing TD on us(NFL record) and we've played 14 out of 16 games!! THIS IS REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!

We are the ONLY team that has yet to allow 200 points this year(185) 13.2 per game, that's unheard of these days. We're 5th in yards allowed , tied for 3rd in Int's(18), #1 in fumble recoveries, #2 in total takeaways. We've only given up 18 TD's as a team and every single one of them have been passing TD's, no rushing TD's, nothing on ST and 0 pick six's from our QB and zero fumble's recovered for TD's.

4 games we didn't even give up a TD and in another 4 games, only 1 TD was scored(one those games was 1 of our 3 losses).


The is remarkable people, I don't know what other stats to pull out here, but we've got a Championship D here , not to mention the best Special Teams unit in the NFL, not to mention an O that controls the clock and just doesn't turn the ball over, ever.


I like where this is going with 2 games remaining and the playoffs on the horizon.


***QUICK EDIT****- Patrick Willis was absent for pretty much three of those games, and we also have recorded 1 shutout and 2 games where we only allowed 1 single FG.
[ Edited by King49er on Dec 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM ]
Hugh Douglas is just given us the craziest love on the Vanpelt show, ESPN. He is basically saying we should be licking our chops for Greenbay or NO. He makes a very convincing case.

He also said he called Niners PR guy Monday night and asked for a signed Aldon Smith jersey to put on his wall with Bruce Smith and Howe Long....


He thinks GB will have no answers for Justin and Aldon with the banged up line. Also mentioned that their D is weak, so we should be able to score running the rock or controling the clock.

He would be suprised to see us in the SB.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Dec 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Hugh Douglas is just given us the craziest love on the Vanpelt show, ESPN. He is basically saying we should be licking our chops for Greenbay or NO. He makes a very convincing case.

He also said he called Niners PR guy Monday night and asked for a signed Aldon Smith jersey to put on his wall with Bruce Smith and Howe Long....


He thinks GB will have no answers for Justin and Aldon with the banged up line. Also mentioned that their D is weak, so we should be able to score running the rock or controling the clock.

He would be suprised to see us in the SB.
Do you mean he wouldn't be surprised?

If our D can corral the long passing plays and our O can continue to improve our red zone efficiency then we have a very good chance to go deep into the playoffs
Originally posted by MntIdaGold:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Hugh Douglas is just given us the craziest love on the Vanpelt show, ESPN. He is basically saying we should be licking our chops for Greenbay or NO. He makes a very convincing case.

He also said he called Niners PR guy Monday night and asked for a signed Aldon Smith jersey to put on his wall with Bruce Smith and Howe Long....


He thinks GB will have no answers for Justin and Aldon with the banged up line. Also mentioned that their D is weak, so we should be able to score running the rock or controling the clock.

He would be suprised to see us in the SB.
Do you mean he wouldn't be surprised?

If our D can corral the long passing plays and our O can continue to improve our red zone efficiency then we have a very good chance to go deep into the playoffs

would not.
Originally posted by MntIdaGold:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Hugh Douglas is just given us the craziest love on the Vanpelt show, ESPN. He is basically saying we should be licking our chops for Greenbay or NO. He makes a very convincing case.

He also said he called Niners PR guy Monday night and asked for a signed Aldon Smith jersey to put on his wall with Bruce Smith and Howe Long....


He thinks GB will have no answers for Justin and Aldon with the banged up line. Also mentioned that their D is weak, so we should be able to score running the rock or controling the clock.

He would be suprised to see us in the SB.
Do you mean he wouldn't be surprised?

If our D can corral the long passing plays and our O can continue to improve our red zone efficiency then we have a very good chance to go deep into the playoffs

If our defense plays like they on Monday and tighten up the missed tackles...WOA! Offense will have trouble this week. We play like sheeeeit in the noise. Unless Alex can Channel 06? Alex like he did that one year to beat Seattle.
Originally posted by King49er:
Quick question.. We all do realize just how amazing of a D this is right? And that it has the potential to steal us some big games in the playoffs and get that trophy, and this is a serious reality.

Opposing teams are averaging 70 yards rushing per game against us(1001 total), that's 20 yards less than the 2nd place team, and NOT ONE TEAM has scored a rushing TD on us(NFL record) and we've played 14 out of 16 games!! THIS IS REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!

We are the ONLY team that has yet to allow 200 points this year(185) 13.2 per game, that's unheard of these days. We're 5th in yards allowed , tied for 3rd in Int's(18), #1 in fumble recoveries, #2 in total takeaways. We've only given up 18 TD's as a team and every single one of them have been passing TD's, no rushing TD's, nothing on ST and 0 pick six's from our QB and zero fumble's recovered for TD's.

4 games we didn't even give up a TD and in another 4 games, only 1 TD was scored(one those games was 1 of our 3 losses).


The is remarkable people, I don't know what other stats to pull out here, but we've got a Championship D here , not to mention the best Special Teams unit in the NFL, not to mention an O that controls the clock and just doesn't turn the ball over, ever.


I like where this is going with 2 games remaining and the playoffs on the horizon.


***QUICK EDIT****- Patrick Willis was absent for pretty much three of those games, and we also have recorded 1 shutout and 2 games where we only allowed 1 single FG.

What 's amazing is the team has struggled on offense converting 3rd downs and TD in the red zone. But we are still winning. And we can see the offense is improving on MNF against one of the very best defense in the league. This team is very close to hitting all phases. As you mentioned defense and special team are there. We are very close to getting it to playoff/SB caliber offense. This team already knows how to win football games by not beating themselves evident by the numbers you've listed. The next step is to take advantage of the opportunities during the game and score more TDs instead of field goals. And keep drive alive by converting those 3rd downs. They have been dominant during their games, dictating the tempo. This team is very close to being dominant on the score board.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by King49er:
Quick question.. We all do realize just how amazing of a D this is right? And that it has the potential to steal us some big games in the playoffs and get that trophy, and this is a serious reality.

Opposing teams are averaging 70 yards rushing per game against us(1001 total), that's 20 yards less than the 2nd place team, and NOT ONE TEAM has scored a rushing TD on us(NFL record) and we've played 14 out of 16 games!! THIS IS REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!

We are the ONLY team that has yet to allow 200 points this year(185) 13.2 per game, that's unheard of these days. We're 5th in yards allowed , tied for 3rd in Int's(18), #1 in fumble recoveries, #2 in total takeaways. We've only given up 18 TD's as a team and every single one of them have been passing TD's, no rushing TD's, nothing on ST and 0 pick six's from our QB and zero fumble's recovered for TD's.

4 games we didn't even give up a TD and in another 4 games, only 1 TD was scored(one those games was 1 of our 3 losses).


The is remarkable people, I don't know what other stats to pull out here, but we've got a Championship D here , not to mention the best Special Teams unit in the NFL, not to mention an O that controls the clock and just doesn't turn the ball over, ever.


I like where this is going with 2 games remaining and the playoffs on the horizon.


***QUICK EDIT****- Patrick Willis was absent for pretty much three of those games, and we also have recorded 1 shutout and 2 games where we only allowed 1 single FG.

What 's amazing is the team has struggled on offense converting 3rd downs and TD in the red zone. But we are still winning. And we can see the offense is improving on MNF against one of the very best defense in the league. This team is very close to hitting all phases. As you mentioned defense and special team are there. We are very close to getting it to playoff/SB caliber offense. This team already knows how to win football games by not beating themselves evident by the numbers you've listed. The next step is to take advantage of the opportunities during the game and score more TDs instead of field goals. And keep drive alive by converting those 3rd downs. They have been dominant during their games, dictating the tempo. This team is very close to being dominant on the score board.

I think Aldon Smith has caught fire, and I think we're going to ride his pass rush through the playoffs and teams like NO and GB won't know what hit them.
[ Edited by King49er on Dec 21, 2011 at 4:11 PM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by MntIdaGold:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Hugh Douglas is just given us the craziest love on the Vanpelt show, ESPN. He is basically saying we should be licking our chops for Greenbay or NO. He makes a very convincing case.

He also said he called Niners PR guy Monday night and asked for a signed Aldon Smith jersey to put on his wall with Bruce Smith and Howe Long....


He thinks GB will have no answers for Justin and Aldon with the banged up line. Also mentioned that their D is weak, so we should be able to score running the rock or controling the clock.

He would be suprised to see us in the SB.
Do you mean he wouldn't be surprised?

If our D can corral the long passing plays and our O can continue to improve our red zone efficiency then we have a very good chance to go deep into the playoffs

would not.

i heard that interview this morning and i thought it ws interesting the way he put our play was like... "playing with house money..." but definitely showing the love for our team. A former Eagle no-less!
One thing i can say about our Defense is that when they are out there-- i have no fear, almost feel confident that we are going to make some sort of game changing play... bring on Seattle!
Our defense is great!
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