Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by zozell:
No lock here. It's a legitimate statement. I agree. Vet approved thread
He's unprepared. So I agree it is indeed a logical question.
He looks good on artifical turf cause he CAN'T slip. Looks like an average Receiver on grass. And for the most part out of the last 3 games has been detrimentally unprepared. Every INT Smith has came off a Pass to Tree. If this was Smith it would be more spread around. Instead Tree has Passes thrown in his direction and ends up laying on the ground more than missing catchable Passes.
I said this before I'm saying it again. He needs his ass to be sat on the bench and let Ziggy start in his place.
I don't buy into the "Diva" argument. Even Divas prepare. As much as I hate T.O. even he prepared for games. His issues are all mental. Trees are just straight up laziness. He should also look into getting another pair of cleats. A pair that has interchangeable cleats woulld be best. If he doesn't feel comfortable of his footing in the 1st series then he should change them to the longer ones. ESPECIALLY when he plays on OUR field. Our field is known for having issues regarding traction even on a clear day.
~Ceadder
A couple of mistakes here. Smith threw a pick intended to Gore. 4/5 went Crabtree's way.
The slant against New Orleans is no way Crabtree's fault. Tipped ball at the line. No chance in Hell Crabtree could have done anything to save that pick.
Okay forgot about the Pass to Gore. I'll give you that one.
HOWEVER...
If you think that a Route that was Tree was supposed to cut off on the break was supposed to go to the Sidelines, when EVERY Analyst and Announcer agreed it was a blown play due to being unprepared, you're just looking for fodder to blame Smith.
Tree is unprepared. You CANNOT leave your QB hung out to dry by you not being prepared.
At the NFL level the QB has to trust that you will run the correct route. Why? Cause he has to be able to throw before your break. Did you not listen to the announcers pointing out that our Pick was because Cassel held the ball just a millisecond too long? Allowing Goldson to jump the route and take the Reception. Receivers are supposed to catch Passes they don't know are going to be there. It's called PREPARATION and Tree just doesn't do this. When he turns around he's surprised by the fact that the ball is there. He did this last Season when he had a blatant Pass thrown to him and he DUCKED ala Brandon Frigging Lloyd.
He's relying on his talent to pull his ass out of hot water. When instead he should be preparing himself and hitting the Juggs after Practice with Vernon.
When he does that, I'll give him credit. When he does that and we have an INT Issue worth talking about I'll be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. When he does that I'd also be more inclined to find fault with the QB.
The Pass to Gore not withstanding all other Picks have come from Passes intended for Tree. He's fallen down on 3 of them and 2 of them he was unprepared. Your QB has to be able to rely on you. If he can't then you have no business being on the field.
This is Football 101. You learn it from the time you're first strapping on the Pads at every level. I learned this when I played and if you played you learned it too. If you didn't learn it then you missed some practices. Cause this sh@t is drilled into you from day one.
~Ceadder
I think we're talking about different plays here. I'm talking about a slant pass that Alex threw that got tipped at the line of scrimmage and deflected right into Tracy Porter's hands. Under no circumstance can you blame Crabtree there, and it really wasn't even Alex's fault. Occasionally balls get batted on the line and bad things happen.
As for watching the game. Look I live in Toledo and have to catch all games at a bar. I don't get any sound to the game.
And yes Alex is to blame here as well. You can say Crabtree was slow out of his break all you want (Seattle game), but that pass he threw was high and Crabtree had little to no chance at catching it. You want to talk football 101. You throw a high pass requiring a leaping catch when a receiver is making a break what are the odds of a completion? Slim to nil. The receiver doesn't have a chance to react that quickly. He throws an accurate football there and it's completely different story.
Ahhh okay we were talking about two different slants here. My bad. Still you cannot fault Smith for throwing in that lane as that's what is required of a slant pass. If he threw it OVER the Line then it's NEVER going to be in stride and then people are complaining that Smith threw the ball over Tree's head.
It was just a good play by the Defender to back off the LoS where Staley could not follow and risk the Illegal Man Downfield penalty. Hell the guy even left his feet to get it. Does Smith have to throw a Blooper to get to Tree in stride? If so as fast as Tree is he cannot possibly be there in time to catch it cause Smith would have to take the snap and deliver it on a quick 3 count. He can't even take a single step back in his 3 step before he has to throw it.
Completely unreasonable to expect ANYONE to do that imho.
~Ceadder
[ Edited by Ceadderman on Sep 27, 2010 at 4:00 PM ]
But im almost sure you can teach that some just do it better than others