Alex Smith Observation.

Originally posted by rapid4:

Originally posted by Smokie:

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

Yes, Alex looks down his receivers.

Not this year. He certainly has in years past, though.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by rapid4:

Originally posted by Smokie:

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

Yes, Alex looks down his receivers.

Not this year. He certainly has in years past, though.

I'm not quite sure how EVERY ball that goes off of his receivers' fingertips is HIS fault. You can most definitely put that first interception on that throw to Gore on Smith, as the throw was high and wide. but every one? Are you kidding me? Even the great QB's need their receivers to make a play. If Colston doesn't make that catch at the end of the game, I guarantee one of our DB's picks it off. But you wouldn't hear Saints fans blaming Brees for that one...

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by rapid4:

Originally posted by Smokie:

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

Yes, Alex looks down his receivers.

Not this year. He certainly has in years past, though.

I'm not quite sure how EVERY ball that goes off of his receivers' fingertips is HIS fault. You can most definitely put that first interception on that throw to Gore on Smith, as the throw was high and wide. but every one? Are you kidding me? Even the great QB's need their receivers to make a play. If Colston doesn't make that catch at the end of the game, I guarantee one of our DB's picks it off. But you wouldn't hear Saints fans blaming Brees for that one...

I'm with you.

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by TDilvr:
He does throw with a lot of velocity on short to medium throws which causes the ball to bounce harder off of a helmet, hand, shoulder pad etc. giving it more air time for a defender to get to the ball.

I think he's getting better at not putting so much mustard on his shorter throws but it kinda goes in line with the fact that when he 1st came into the league at age 20 he was trying too hard to impress.

Too bad he wasn't afforded clipboard duty for a couple of years behind a solid QB. Oh well. It is what it is and thankfully it seems that he's finally getting it.

I think it has to do with the fact that he is a doofus who does not know how to throw a touch pass after six years in the NFL. Even college QBs like Andrew Luck know how to take something off the ball and still be accurate. Smith is not a playmaker, let's face it. He allows opponents to make plays.

Inaccurate passes to wide open receivers are way more common than with top QBs. Don't point to the occasional inaccurate passes from the top QBs as evidence-- that is a silly argument. What about the incredible throws that Alex simply does not make? Back shoulder passes, looking off defenders, etc. Never see that with Alex. He plays everyone straight up, which is fine in HS and college. Not so good in the NFL.

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

dude.

Who the f*ck are you?

Second of all, Smith has made some incredible throws during his career. How about that TD pass to Crabtree against Greenbay last year where he threw a nice arching pass that crabs was able to outjump GB's pro-bowl CB for?

That's the first example that comes to mind and it's exactly the type of throw you claim he has never made. Secondly, how do you know he's telegraphing passes? Are you watching game tape that shows the passing lanes and the whole field? Didn't think so. Dude it's clear your a blind alex hater because your argument does not flow from logic, but rather emotion.

Second of all, back shoulder throws require tremendously skilled receivers - something the 9ers have not had until recently (VD). It's funny how you didn't seem to notice how Alex threw some back shoulder throws to Vernon Davis last year. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

Every year when the season starts ninertalk gets an influx of new posters and ALL of them post this same kind of crap. It's all reactionary and people spouting off their opinions like they are fact. Get in line, you are not special. You are just another ninertalk noob that doesn't know anything about football.

edit: I see that you joined 6 days ago and already have 107 posts? Are you kidding me? you post almost 15 times a day? You need to talk about football less, and watch football more before you come back here.

OK tough guy. Being new on here means nothing, is this grade school? Feel free to disagree with me, that is what boards are for, genius. Or would you be happier if everyone thought Smith is ready to break out and be a great QB? You don't need to break down tape to see that he tracks his receiver most of the time-- I guess you do break down tape? Thanks Mr. Johnson.

Being new doesn't predispose you to being stupid, but if you've been here for a few years than you would understand how every year it's the same - tons of new posters join just to throw in their 2 cents, and most of the time it's all really reactionary "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" and then you never hear from them again once the season wears on a little bit and they see that it isn't as bad - or good - as they thought it was.

I will disagree with you, gladly. And I don't care if you don't think Smith will succeed. That's your opinion. What I'm tired of is getting into this same debate with people who don't back up their opinions with facts and logic, but just their emotions and their preconceived notions. There are a lot of knowledgeable posters here that have been either watching football for a long time, or involved in the sport of football in some fashion, or always make sure to write well thought-out arguments for their posts and I take my cues from those guys.

Which brings me back to my main point. If you want to say "Alex Smith locks onto his receivers," then you need to bring specific examples to the table of Smith locking onto his receivers. You can't just say it and make it true. The more emotional you get in the defense of your opinion does not make you more right.

For the record, I know he locks onto his receivers, or at least he has in the past. I didn't notice it last game, or that much last season either and I think it's something he has improved on.

You are agreeing with me, and yet you are calling me out? Why? To show what a "veteran" you are? If you want your own forum, go set one up. I'm sure Ceadder would join you. In the meantime, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by TDilvr:
He does throw with a lot of velocity on short to medium throws which causes the ball to bounce harder off of a helmet, hand, shoulder pad etc. giving it more air time for a defender to get to the ball.

I think he's getting better at not putting so much mustard on his shorter throws but it kinda goes in line with the fact that when he 1st came into the league at age 20 he was trying too hard to impress.

Too bad he wasn't afforded clipboard duty for a couple of years behind a solid QB. Oh well. It is what it is and thankfully it seems that he's finally getting it.

I think it has to do with the fact that he is a doofus who does not know how to throw a touch pass after six years in the NFL. Even college QBs like Andrew Luck know how to take something off the ball and still be accurate. Smith is not a playmaker, let's face it. He allows opponents to make plays.

Inaccurate passes to wide open receivers are way more common than with top QBs. Don't point to the occasional inaccurate passes from the top QBs as evidence-- that is a silly argument. What about the incredible throws that Alex simply does not make? Back shoulder passes, looking off defenders, etc. Never see that with Alex. He plays everyone straight up, which is fine in HS and college. Not so good in the NFL.

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

dude.

Who the f*ck are you?

Second of all, Smith has made some incredible throws during his career. How about that TD pass to Crabtree against Greenbay last year where he threw a nice arching pass that crabs was able to outjump GB's pro-bowl CB for?

That's the first example that comes to mind and it's exactly the type of throw you claim he has never made. Secondly, how do you know he's telegraphing passes? Are you watching game tape that shows the passing lanes and the whole field? Didn't think so. Dude it's clear your a blind alex hater because your argument does not flow from logic, but rather emotion.

Second of all, back shoulder throws require tremendously skilled receivers - something the 9ers have not had until recently (VD). It's funny how you didn't seem to notice how Alex threw some back shoulder throws to Vernon Davis last year. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

Every year when the season starts ninertalk gets an influx of new posters and ALL of them post this same kind of crap. It's all reactionary and people spouting off their opinions like they are fact. Get in line, you are not special. You are just another ninertalk noob that doesn't know anything about football.

edit: I see that you joined 6 days ago and already have 107 posts? Are you kidding me? you post almost 15 times a day? You need to talk about football less, and watch football more before you come back here.

OK tough guy. Being new on here means nothing, is this grade school? Feel free to disagree with me, that is what boards are for, genius. Or would you be happier if everyone thought Smith is ready to break out and be a great QB? You don't need to break down tape to see that he tracks his receiver most of the time-- I guess you do break down tape? Thanks Mr. Johnson.

Being new doesn't predispose you to being stupid, but if you've been here for a few years than you would understand how every year it's the same - tons of new posters join just to throw in their 2 cents, and most of the time it's all really reactionary "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" and then you never hear from them again once the season wears on a little bit and they see that it isn't as bad - or good - as they thought it was.

I will disagree with you, gladly. And I don't care if you don't think Smith will succeed. That's your opinion. What I'm tired of is getting into this same debate with people who don't back up their opinions with facts and logic, but just their emotions and their preconceived notions. There are a lot of knowledgeable posters here that have been either watching football for a long time, or involved in the sport of football in some fashion, or always make sure to write well thought-out arguments for their posts and I take my cues from those guys.

Which brings me back to my main point. If you want to say "Alex Smith locks onto his receivers," then you need to bring specific examples to the table of Smith locking onto his receivers. You can't just say it and make it true. The more emotional you get in the defense of your opinion does not make you more right.

For the record, I know he locks onto his receivers, or at least he has in the past. I didn't notice it last game, or that much last season either and I think it's something he has improved on.

You are agreeing with me, and yet you are calling me out? Why? To show what a "veteran" you are? If you want your own forum, go set one up. I'm sure Ceadder would join you. In the meantime, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by TDilvr:
He does throw with a lot of velocity on short to medium throws which causes the ball to bounce harder off of a helmet, hand, shoulder pad etc. giving it more air time for a defender to get to the ball.

I think he's getting better at not putting so much mustard on his shorter throws but it kinda goes in line with the fact that when he 1st came into the league at age 20 he was trying too hard to impress.

Too bad he wasn't afforded clipboard duty for a couple of years behind a solid QB. Oh well. It is what it is and thankfully it seems that he's finally getting it.

I think it has to do with the fact that he is a doofus who does not know how to throw a touch pass after six years in the NFL. Even college QBs like Andrew Luck know how to take something off the ball and still be accurate. Smith is not a playmaker, let's face it. He allows opponents to make plays.

Inaccurate passes to wide open receivers are way more common than with top QBs. Don't point to the occasional inaccurate passes from the top QBs as evidence-- that is a silly argument. What about the incredible throws that Alex simply does not make? Back shoulder passes, looking off defenders, etc. Never see that with Alex. He plays everyone straight up, which is fine in HS and college. Not so good in the NFL.

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

dude.

Who the f*ck are you?

Second of all, Smith has made some incredible throws during his career. How about that TD pass to Crabtree against Greenbay last year where he threw a nice arching pass that crabs was able to outjump GB's pro-bowl CB for?

That's the first example that comes to mind and it's exactly the type of throw you claim he has never made. Secondly, how do you know he's telegraphing passes? Are you watching game tape that shows the passing lanes and the whole field? Didn't think so. Dude it's clear your a blind alex hater because your argument does not flow from logic, but rather emotion.

Second of all, back shoulder throws require tremendously skilled receivers - something the 9ers have not had until recently (VD). It's funny how you didn't seem to notice how Alex threw some back shoulder throws to Vernon Davis last year. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

Every year when the season starts ninertalk gets an influx of new posters and ALL of them post this same kind of crap. It's all reactionary and people spouting off their opinions like they are fact. Get in line, you are not special. You are just another ninertalk noob that doesn't know anything about football.

edit: I see that you joined 6 days ago and already have 107 posts? Are you kidding me? you post almost 15 times a day? You need to talk about football less, and watch football more before you come back here.

OK tough guy. Being new on here means nothing, is this grade school? Feel free to disagree with me, that is what boards are for, genius. Or would you be happier if everyone thought Smith is ready to break out and be a great QB? You don't need to break down tape to see that he tracks his receiver most of the time-- I guess you do break down tape? Thanks Mr. Johnson.

Being new doesn't predispose you to being stupid, but if you've been here for a few years than you would understand how every year it's the same - tons of new posters join just to throw in their 2 cents, and most of the time it's all really reactionary "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" and then you never hear from them again once the season wears on a little bit and they see that it isn't as bad - or good - as they thought it was.

I will disagree with you, gladly. And I don't care if you don't think Smith will succeed. That's your opinion. What I'm tired of is getting into this same debate with people who don't back up their opinions with facts and logic, but just their emotions and their preconceived notions. There are a lot of knowledgeable posters here that have been either watching football for a long time, or involved in the sport of football in some fashion, or always make sure to write well thought-out arguments for their posts and I take my cues from those guys.

Which brings me back to my main point. If you want to say "Alex Smith locks onto his receivers," then you need to bring specific examples to the table of Smith locking onto his receivers. You can't just say it and make it true. The more emotional you get in the defense of your opinion does not make you more right.

For the record, I know he locks onto his receivers, or at least he has in the past. I didn't notice it last game, or that much last season either and I think it's something he has improved on.

You are agreeing with me, and yet you are calling me out? Why? To show what a "veteran" you are? If you want your own forum, go set one up. I'm sure Ceadder would join you. In the meantime, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

1. I'm saying he used to lock onto his receivers, but he has stopped that habit lately. Go read what I said.

2. I could give 2 s**ts if you think I'm a "veteran" or not. I only call you out to improve the quality of discussion around here, which too often degenerates into a bunch of unintelligent and emotional extremes like "OMG ALEX SMITH SUXZORS" "COACH SING IS LEGALLY RETARDED." I honestly don't give a f**k if you like me or not.

3. If you can't learn to form intelligent arguments to back up your statements, get ready to be criticized over and over again.

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by TDilvr:
He does throw with a lot of velocity on short to medium throws which causes the ball to bounce harder off of a helmet, hand, shoulder pad etc. giving it more air time for a defender to get to the ball.

I think he's getting better at not putting so much mustard on his shorter throws but it kinda goes in line with the fact that when he 1st came into the league at age 20 he was trying too hard to impress.

Too bad he wasn't afforded clipboard duty for a couple of years behind a solid QB. Oh well. It is what it is and thankfully it seems that he's finally getting it.

I think it has to do with the fact that he is a doofus who does not know how to throw a touch pass after six years in the NFL. Even college QBs like Andrew Luck know how to take something off the ball and still be accurate. Smith is not a playmaker, let's face it. He allows opponents to make plays.

Inaccurate passes to wide open receivers are way more common than with top QBs. Don't point to the occasional inaccurate passes from the top QBs as evidence-- that is a silly argument. What about the incredible throws that Alex simply does not make? Back shoulder passes, looking off defenders, etc. Never see that with Alex. He plays everyone straight up, which is fine in HS and college. Not so good in the NFL.

At any rate, Alex's telegraphing of passes allows defenders to tip balls at the line, and allows defensive backs time to focus in on one receiver. That and the inaccurate balls off his own players' fingertips will get you a lot of "unlucky" picks. This is not bad luck, this is skill on Smith's part. If getting balls tipped and intercepted was a good thing, he would be an All-Pro.

dude.

Who the f*ck are you?

Second of all, Smith has made some incredible throws during his career. How about that TD pass to Crabtree against Greenbay last year where he threw a nice arching pass that crabs was able to outjump GB's pro-bowl CB for?

That's the first example that comes to mind and it's exactly the type of throw you claim he has never made. Secondly, how do you know he's telegraphing passes? Are you watching game tape that shows the passing lanes and the whole field? Didn't think so. Dude it's clear your a blind alex hater because your argument does not flow from logic, but rather emotion.

Second of all, back shoulder throws require tremendously skilled receivers - something the 9ers have not had until recently (VD). It's funny how you didn't seem to notice how Alex threw some back shoulder throws to Vernon Davis last year. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

Every year when the season starts ninertalk gets an influx of new posters and ALL of them post this same kind of crap. It's all reactionary and people spouting off their opinions like they are fact. Get in line, you are not special. You are just another ninertalk noob that doesn't know anything about football.

edit: I see that you joined 6 days ago and already have 107 posts? Are you kidding me? you post almost 15 times a day? You need to talk about football less, and watch football more before you come back here.

OK tough guy. Being new on here means nothing, is this grade school? Feel free to disagree with me, that is what boards are for, genius. Or would you be happier if everyone thought Smith is ready to break out and be a great QB? You don't need to break down tape to see that he tracks his receiver most of the time-- I guess you do break down tape? Thanks Mr. Johnson.

Being new doesn't predispose you to being stupid, but if you've been here for a few years than you would understand how every year it's the same - tons of new posters join just to throw in their 2 cents, and most of the time it's all really reactionary "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" and then you never hear from them again once the season wears on a little bit and they see that it isn't as bad - or good - as they thought it was.

I will disagree with you, gladly. And I don't care if you don't think Smith will succeed. That's your opinion. What I'm tired of is getting into this same debate with people who don't back up their opinions with facts and logic, but just their emotions and their preconceived notions. There are a lot of knowledgeable posters here that have been either watching football for a long time, or involved in the sport of football in some fashion, or always make sure to write well thought-out arguments for their posts and I take my cues from those guys.

Which brings me back to my main point. If you want to say "Alex Smith locks onto his receivers," then you need to bring specific examples to the table of Smith locking onto his receivers. You can't just say it and make it true. The more emotional you get in the defense of your opinion does not make you more right.

For the record, I know he locks onto his receivers, or at least he has in the past. I didn't notice it last game, or that much last season either and I think it's something he has improved on.

You are agreeing with me, and yet you are calling me out? Why? To show what a "veteran" you are? If you want your own forum, go set one up. I'm sure Ceadder would join you. In the meantime, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

1. I'm saying he used to lock onto his receivers, but he has stopped that habit lately. Go read what I said.

2. I could give 2 s**ts if you think I'm a "veteran" or not. I only call you out to improve the quality of discussion around here, which too often degenerates into a bunch of unintelligent and emotional extremes like "OMG ALEX SMITH SUXZORS" "COACH SING IS LEGALLY RETARDED." I honestly don't give a f**k if you like me or not.

3. If you can't learn to form intelligent arguments to back up your statements, get ready to be criticized over and over again.

Fire away, tough guy.

Through two weeks Alex has 500 passing yards... he's on-pace to have a 4000 yard season!!!

http://www.nfl.com/players/alexsmith/profile?id=SMI031126

Originally posted by rawdel:
Through two weeks Alex has 500 passing yards... he's on-pace to have a 4000 yard season!!!

http://www.nfl.com/players/alexsmith/profile?id=SMI031126

He is also on pace for 32 interceptions and 16 losses. I know your post was tongue in cheek, but when you look at it from another perspective, it is not pretty.

Yeah, pump-faking is almost an essential now for a modern day QB to be successful. Specially since we're in a new era of football where IT IS AN ESSENTIAL to have your DEs and OLBs harness either graduated-jumping skills at the combine, or to naturally possess reasonable arm lengths to be able to shoot down/clog up passing lanes (when it counts to aid turnovers). -And tipped passes were pretty much how New Orleans obtained 85% of their turnover success last season.

Matt Hasselbeck (for instance) isn't even half the man he used to be, but most of his success against us 2 weeks ago came from pump-faking (which our CBs fell for), specially on screen-passes.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Yeah, pump-faking is almost an essential now for a modern day QB to be successful. Specially since we're in a new era of football where IT IS AN ESSENTIAL to have your DEs and OLBs harness either graduated-jumping skills at the combine, or to naturally possess reasonable arm lengths to be able to shoot down/clog up passing lanes (when it counts to aid turnovers). -And tipped passes were pretty much how New Orleans obtained 85% of their turnover success last season.

Matt Hasselbeck (for instance) isn't even half the man he used to be, but most of his success against us 2 weeks ago came from pump-faking (which our CBs fell for), specially on screen-passes.

i agree

one thing alex does that is very good is that he does not make bad decisions however he has had such little time in the past he was never able to pumpfake now he has the time and he has to learn how to pumpfake

also i would like to point out that alexs accuract on his intermideate and long passes is amazing he is very good and hits the WR in stride on those 12+yd passes

however his short passes need a lot of work but i will say he is improving a lot

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Yeah, pump-faking is almost an essential now for a modern day QB to be successful. Specially since we're in a new era of football where IT IS AN ESSENTIAL to have your DEs and OLBs harness either graduated-jumping skills at the combine, or to naturally possess reasonable arm lengths to be able to shoot down/clog up passing lanes (when it counts to aid turnovers). -And tipped passes were pretty much how New Orleans obtained 85% of their turnover success last season.

Matt Hasselbeck (for instance) isn't even half the man he used to be, but most of his success against us 2 weeks ago came from pump-faking (which our CBs fell for), specially on screen-passes.

Thank you. Brees and Manning are the best QBs in the league and they both pump fake A LOT. Anything to get a little advantage because there are great athletes on every team. The other thing they do is deliberately look off the defender. There is a reason why their receivers look so good, seemingly no matter who they line up. Is anyone really disputing the importance of this though?

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Yeah, pump-faking is almost an essential now for a modern day QB to be successful. Specially since we're in a new era of football where IT IS AN ESSENTIAL to have your DEs and OLBs harness either graduated-jumping skills at the combine, or to naturally possess reasonable arm lengths to be able to shoot down/clog up passing lanes (when it counts to aid turnovers). -And tipped passes were pretty much how New Orleans obtained 85% of their turnover success last season.

Matt Hasselbeck (for instance) isn't even half the man he used to be, but most of his success against us 2 weeks ago came from pump-faking (which our CBs fell for), specially on screen-passes.

Thank you. Brees and Manning are the best QBs in the league and they both pump fake A LOT. Anything to get a little advantage because there are great athletes on every team. The other thing they do is deliberately look off the defender. There is a reason why their receivers look so good, seemingly no matter who they line up. Is anyone really disputing the importance of this though?

no the only problem was that before this year he has never had the time to pumppfake and im sure most people would agree to this

this year he does have the time to pumpfake so he has to grow that habbit back

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
And it's not just Alex "can't throw touch passes.." Look at the pre season game vs Indy. He threw the ball and it hit Delanies hands, gets tipped, and picked off.

Smith does need to improve his touch passes however the receivers need to do a better job of not confusing football with volleyball.

Been saying this for the last 3 years. If our Receivers catch the ones that hit them in the hands Smith wouldn't get trashed around here so much.

Fans don't care what you look like so long as you Win. If the Receivers would catch the ball, we Win more than we Lose and Smith is a hero.

It is what it is. And I have noticed that most of his INTs' come off Tips. Which I have ALSO pointed out.

Looks like people are finally coming around.

~Ceadder

1. Alex played GREAT overall on MNF.

2. The first INT was his fault.

3. In the past, he has thrown numerous passes that were tipped and went for INTs that were 100%, unequivocally, his fault.

4. He seemed to do a better job of not forcing and taking what the D gave him. This is only possible if we pass to setup the run as he's not forced to throw down the field on 3rd and 8. It's perfectly fine to dump the ball off on 1st and 10 and pick up 5 if that's what the D gives.