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Originally posted by WestCoast:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
That is really stupid. We were down by 8, not 7. So, if we had scored a TD with no time or little time left on the clock and we failed to get 2pt. conversion, then game was over.

We scored quickly...so if we don't convert for 2pts...we can onside kick it and have time to get in the FG range.

Whoever wrote this article isn't very bright.

this. end of thread.

What does that make the person who bought into the article hook, line and sinker? Not to pile on or anything. Well maybe a little.
for the last time we didnt lose the game because we left 1:19 on the clock, we lost because of 4 boneheaded mistakes. we dont make those mistakes in the redzone and on their 30 we win easily and the media would be on our nuts because we beat and dismantled the defending douchebag champs
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
That is really stupid. We were down by 8, not 7. So, if we had scored a TD with no time or little time left on the clock and we failed to get 2pt. conversion, then game was over.

We scored quickly...so if we don't convert for 2pts...we can onside kick it and have time to get in the FG range.

Whoever wrote this article isn't very bright.

I agree. I think the most imp thing at that point is to score, plus we needed a two point conversion (assuming we scored).
Our defense had to stop Brees, but failed.
Originally posted by 49ERSAM:


The bottom line, we don't have a head coach as smart as Peyton.

PAYTON.
as in Sean Payton.

not

PEYTON
as in Manning.

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I disagree with Lombardi on his "they left too much time on the clock" argument for the reasons adequately discussed.

But the Vernon equipment issue IS a time management issue for the coach and the team. (And did anyone else notice how Alex knew the clock was going to run out, but didn't call the time out - from his reaction BEFORE it happened, I'm sure he was told: no time outs, NO MATTER WHAT!)

Also the time out before the two-minute warning was another problem that belongs right at Sing's doorstep. He used this as an excuse (during his presser) for being allowed to lose his cool on the sideline, and I was disappointed none of the beat reporters called him on it!

How did Kubiak get that timeout at the last instant to ice the kicker on Sunday? HE TOLD THE REF BEFORE THE PLAY: I'm going to call time out - watch me!

What did Sing do? Did he tell the ref before the play, we're going to be looking to stop the clock after we stop them, so be alert?

Or did he wait until after the play and then get his panties in a bunch when no one saw him. It was his own damn fault for being unprepared!

You're playing with the big boys, Mike. You can't just smash 'em in the mouth and think that's going to get it done. You have to be smarter and better prepared. Your brilliant "coaching" has players like Frank Gore thinking you "whooped 'em" when all the fans see is another "L"!
Originally posted by bret:
I disagree with Lombardi on his "they left too much time on the clock" argument for the reasons adequately discussed.

But the Vernon equipment issue IS a time management issue for the coach and the team. (And did anyone else notice how Alex knew the clock was going to run out, but didn't call the time out - from his reaction BEFORE it happened, I'm sure he was told: no time outs, NO MATTER WHAT!)

Also the time out before the two-minute warning was another problem that belongs right at Sing's doorstep. He used this as an excuse (during his presser) for being allowed to lose his cool on the sideline, and I was disappointed none of the beat reporters called him on it!

How did Kubiak get that timeout at the last instant to ice the kicker on Sunday? HE TOLD THE REF BEFORE THE PLAY: I'm going to call time out - watch me!

What did Sing do? Did he tell the ref before the play, we're going to be looking to stop the clock after we stop them, so be alert?

Or did he wait until after the play and then get his panties in a bunch when no one saw him. It was his own damn fault for being unprepared!

You're playing with the big boys, Mike. You can't just smash 'em in the mouth and think that's going to get it done. You have to be smarter and better prepared. Your brilliant "coaching" has players like Frank Gore thinking you "whooped 'em" when all the fans see is another "L"!

Your lack of understanding of context makes it so you think that Gore meant something other than "We physically dominated them all over the field, but lost because though we moved the ball more or less at will, we kept turning the ball over"

[ Edited by dtcomposer on Sep 22, 2010 at 10:40:06 ]
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Originally posted by niners94510:

As for the chinstraps....that is not the job of sing. He has enough to worry about not a chinstrap. If you are going to blame anyone How about the equipment crew who took that long to replace something so simple or the tight ends coach who is only in charge of the tight ends and should have sent in someone else.

Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him. He is completely uninvolved in the low-level action of the game. This is on both offense and defense.

Basically you could leave him in the locker room, and all the cogs on the team would be fine.

For a young team like the Niners, this is totally the wrong approach. They need hands on coaching from the top. But all they really have right now are pep talks and the assistants running the show while Singletary stands around clueless with a finger up his butt.
The play calling must improve. JR sould call plays in the first half that he would only call in the second half as if we were behind. Then in the second half when we have the a cushion, he can call play like he does in the first half.
Originally posted by kray28:
Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him. He is completely uninvolved in the low-level action of the game. This is on both offense and defense.

Basically you could leave him in the locker room, and all the cogs on the team would be fine.

For a young team like the Niners, this is totally the wrong approach. They need hands on coaching from the top. But all they really have right now are pep talks and the assistants running the show while Singletary stands around clueless with a finger up his butt.

Your assessment of Singletary is based solely on what he does while the camera is on him during game day?

You should quit watching football immediately.
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Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by kray28:
Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him. He is completely uninvolved in the low-level action of the game. This is on both offense and defense.

Basically you could leave him in the locker room, and all the cogs on the team would be fine.

For a young team like the Niners, this is totally the wrong approach. They need hands on coaching from the top. But all they really have right now are pep talks and the assistants running the show while Singletary stands around clueless with a finger up his butt.

Your assessment of Singletary is based solely on what he does while the camera is on him during game day?

You should quit watching football immediately.

lol...this guy is just trolling. I was at the game last night, and Singletary is involved in every way. From talkin' to the refs to the players and to the coaches. We need an ignore button in NT
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Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by kray28:
Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him. He is completely uninvolved in the low-level action of the game. This is on both offense and defense.

Basically you could leave him in the locker room, and all the cogs on the team would be fine.

For a young team like the Niners, this is totally the wrong approach. They need hands on coaching from the top. But all they really have right now are pep talks and the assistants running the show while Singletary stands around clueless with a finger up his butt.

Your assessment of Singletary is based solely on what he does while the camera is on him during game day?

You should quit watching football immediately.

I've watched Singletary coach enough (25+ games now) to see the pattern. He's not involved in the play calls or really anything. He's a delegator, and he's slow to react to situations which need his executive purview for a reason. And that reason is that he's not sufficiently engaged in the low level details of the game.

Someone has to come to him with a problem, he will not be aware of it otherwise.

It's his team....why is he not on top of things?
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

lol...this guy is just trolling. I was at the game last night, and Singletary is involved in every way. From talkin' to the refs to the players and to the coaches. We need an ignore button in NT

Having an opinion contrary to the homer viewpoint of choice != trolling.

Facts are a biotch.
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by kray28:
Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him. He is completely uninvolved in the low-level action of the game. This is on both offense and defense.

Basically you could leave him in the locker room, and all the cogs on the team would be fine.

For a young team like the Niners, this is totally the wrong approach. They need hands on coaching from the top. But all they really have right now are pep talks and the assistants running the show while Singletary stands around clueless with a finger up his butt.

Your assessment of Singletary is based solely on what he does while the camera is on him during game day?

You should quit watching football immediately.

I've watched Singletary coach enough (25+ games now) to see the pattern. He's not involved in the play calls or really anything. He's a delegator, and he's slow to react to situations which need his executive purview for a reason. And that reason is that he's not sufficiently engaged in the low level details of the game.

Someone has to come to him with a problem, he will not be aware of it otherwise.

It's his team....why is he not on top of things?

This doesn't change the fact that you're basing your opinion on television cuts during games.

Originally posted by kray28:
Can anyone tell me what Singletary actually does on the sideline? 95% of his time on the camera, he's standing there silently with his mic lifted above his forehead while all the action is going on around him.

You don't believe he's involved in the game planning and preparation of each game every week? Part of being a leader is delegating tasks to those you've trusted upon within your organization. Basing your opinion off a handful of games and some television coverage is foolish.

Singletary believes in Raye and Manusky to make the right calls on gameday. This isn't any different than George Seifert delegating full control to Mike Shanahan and Bill McPherson.

I'd disagree with your assessment regarding his ability to react to situations. He was decisive in calling a time out when the Saints came onto the field with four wide receivers when the defense was still in goaline personnel, and he was correct on two challenges.

[ Edited by redrathman on Sep 22, 2010 at 11:59:09 ]
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

lol...this guy is just trolling. I was at the game last night, and Singletary is involved in every way. From talkin' to the refs to the players and to the coaches. We need an ignore button in NT

Having an opinion contrary to the homer viewpoint of choice != trolling.

Facts are a biotch.

I've no problem with you having a contrary opinion. But, let's get this straight - you're not using facts.

Singletary is every bit involved during the game...he is talkin' to players as they come off the field, he is talkin' to the players who are going into the game - he is talkin' to the refs, he is talking to his coaches. You can criticize him for many things, but don't make up stuff to criticize him.

Scoring that TD in as little time is the right call. Like I said, in basketball - you don't wait for a buzzer beater when you're down by 2 pt and have 20 seconds on the clock. You try to score quickly...giving yourself another chance if you miss at your first attempt.
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Originally posted by Bassin49er:
The play calling must improve. JR sould call plays in the first half that he would only call in the second half as if we were behind. Then in the second half when we have the a cushion, he can call play like he does in the first half.

Play-calling was perfect on Monday night.
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