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Eric Davis: Problem is with play management

  • Jcool
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Originally posted by kelpie70:
Here's a novel idea, why not have Raye operate from the sidelines? then we can evaluate and see where the bugaboos lie. This may light a fire under his butt to get the calls in much sooner!



Ray is sooooo old he cant be standing up for a whole game!
  • pd24
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The coaching staff is retarded. We had trouble getting calls in last year when it was just Raye to Smith, and this year the want to throw a middle man in the mix with raye sending the play to Mike Johnson, and Johnson relaying it to Smith. Sing doesn't know what the hell is going on as far as the offense goes, I bet Sing is the one who called the 2 plays on 4th and goal and thought we should get the ball to Norris, even though we have Gore, V Davis, Crabtree, Morgan, Walker, and Ginn. Someone thought Moran Norris was the way to go when we need to make a play.
Really we can't figure this out by now? It's every game for 2years already. We are not a well coached team and that's why we stink
It's pathetic, and a sign that the team is coached by incompetents.
I agree that there are serious communications problems. Raye should just give Smith some plays so that he can call them if there is a breakdown in getting the plays in. Just go with the personnel groupings out there instead of burning all the timeouts or taking the penalties. You know the play is going to be Gore up the middle. The whole league knows that! It's really embarrassing!
  • pd24
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It remindes me of when Nolan would be fixing the time on his watch when the game was going on and then he would challenge a play that you can't challenge. Sing is a good talker and can pump people up in the short term and that is why I think jed York jumpped the gun and gave him the job. It gets old after a while, and it seems like it is getting old now.

After 6 years they still didn't come into the season with a backup plan in case Alex Smith fails, he looked like Alex Smith to me yesterday. It was a typical Smith performance, but he is the best option because Sing thought Smith was going to breakout after 5 years. The throws were the same throws he has made his whole career. They were high and off target. He missed Ginn on the long ball, threw way too high to Morgan in the endzone when it didn't need to be that high, and threw a bad pass to Norris that still should have been caught.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100912/NEWS/100919871/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall

Lowell Cohn is all over this...hope he keeps the heat up because Raye has to go, we have Mike Johnson waiting in the wings, no reason to hold off any longer

we're stuck with Alex for at least the rest of this season, have to try and make it work. Whether he's calling out Raye on purpose or not, as the saying goes....where there's smoke there's fire.
Raye cannot call the play into Smith unless he [Raye] is on the sideline. NFL rules don't allow booth to QB connections—only sideline to QB connections.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100912/NEWS/100919871/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall&tc=ar

Alex Smith shoots straight: 49er coaches unprepared

Didn't we have problems with this offensive coaching last year? I remember a game where Smith and Shaun Hill watched film and discovered some weaknesses about their opponent. They took it to Raye and he did nothing! Being outcoached is going to be a theme this year!
I don't think Smith was "calling anyone" out. Typical Cohn yellow journalism.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by ghostrider:
Raye cannot call the play into Smith unless he [Raye] is on the sideline. NFL rules don't allow booth to QB connections—only sideline to QB connections.


Then his old ass needs to be on the sideline, when he doesn't know what to do in a tight situation, he panics and calls a play for Norris.
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Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
I don't think Smith was "calling anyone" out. Typical Cohn yellow journalism.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think Lowell Cohn is spot on here.
Originally posted by contrarios:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100912/NEWS/100919871/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall&tc=ar

Alex Smith shoots straight: 49er coaches unprepared

Didn't we have problems with this offensive coaching last year? I remember a game where Smith and Shaun Hill watched film and discovered some weaknesses about their opponent. They took it to Raye and he did nothing! Being outcoached is going to be a theme this year!

Damn

No wonder his passes were not accurate, its cause the coaches were unprepared

Seems like Alex is pulling a Nolan
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Alex Smith is the problem, not the headsets, not the play calling.

as much as some here like to get on Raye and the players....he did call plays that could've been potential TDs and the players did their job and got open.

that Morgan Pass that was too high could've been placed elsewhere...

that Norris pass could've been elsewhere....I know that some here don't like us going to Norris...but the play worked, he was open for a TD.

that Ginn pass could've been elsewhere.... Ginn burnt his man... Raye drew up a play that worked and was a potential TD...but Alex missed his pass once again.

The pass to Norris. I doubt he and Smith worked on that during training camp, maybe once if at all. We have other more capable options for that play. It was the wrong call by the OC. One of many...


and looking back at the norris throw it wasnt horrible if norris ran foward instead of stopping and back peadling for it he wouldve been hit in a stride

LOL, some people will stop at nothing to defend the bum.

He f**ked up on that play and many others today. Deal with it.

im not defensing he shouldve bulleted it instead of lobbed it but the throw itself wasnt bad it was a horrible decision but the throw wasnt that bad

Had they worked on it in training camp, the coaches would have instructed Norris to NOT TURN HIS BACK to the goal line, and to continue running towards the end zone as the ball would come to him. Right play, wrong player. (Westbrook)
It probably doesn't matter too much if the play calls come in fast or slow when the QB can't hit the broadside of a barn.