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Clayton Ranking NFL starting quarterbacks

Here's your poster boy:

21. Alex Smith, San Francisco 49ers

Analysis: It's hard to believe this is Smith's sixth season. The pressure is on him to get the 49ers to the playoffs. He has not lived up to his No. 1 billing in the draft, obviously, but the surrounding cast is good enough to make a playoff run. One of the faults I noticed when I saw him in the preseason is that he doesn't always hit receivers in stride.
Chance of being elite: 0 percent


It's very true elite QB's can hit a receiver in stride when they have to.

think why i still dont trust this guy even with a pro bowl cast we could end up not making the playoff's because of play

im not a Smith backer but i want the playoffs SO BAD that i really dont have no choice but back him.

Just imagine what kind of team we would have if we had A REAL NFL QB like lets say Drew Brees????..............
21 sounds about right.
Great. More media fodder for Smith doubters.
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I was thinking about the hitting receivers in-stride thing. Warner was a master of that. Smith isn't. He also has trouble throwing receivers open or before they break. They generally have to already be open for him to feel comfortable.
This season will tell us whether he is a quality QB or not. He has all the weapons, he has the oline, and we will see if Jimmy Raye's offensive philosophy will allow him to blossom or not. But this is his year. I think he has the talent and we will see if he can put it together.
[ Edited by Ninefan56 on Aug 31, 2010 at 11:48 AM ]

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Here's your poster boy:

21. Alex Smith, San Francisco 49ers

Analysis: It's hard to believe this is Smith's sixth season. The pressure is on him to get the 49ers to the playoffs. He has not lived up to his No. 1 billing in the draft, obviously, but the surrounding cast is good enough to make a playoff run. One of the faults I noticed when I saw him in the preseason is that he doesn't always hit receivers in stride.
Chance of being elite: 0 percent


It's very true elite QB's can hit a receiver in stride when they have to.

think why i still dont trust this guy even with a pro bowl cast we could end up not making the playoff's because of play

im not a Smith backer but i want the playoffs SO BAD that i really dont have no choice but back him.

Just imagine what kind of team we would have if we had A REAL NFL QB like lets say Drew Brees????..............

I think this is a legitimate criticism of Smith, and something that bears watching.

And I know I will get flamed for this, but Brady in 2012, assuming a lockout in 2011, isn't out of the question right now. His deal ends at the end of the year. He seems a little upset that a new contract hasn't been worked out, he's living on the west coast and didn't want to travel east for voluntary workouts. And we've all heard who he grew up supporting. I expect a deal with the Patriots will get worked out, or a franchise tag slapped on him, but it's at least plausible as of the last day of August.
Originally posted by Shaj:
I was thinking about the hitting receivers in-stride thing. Warner was a master of that. Smith isn't. He also has trouble throwing receivers open or before they break. They generally have to already be open for him to feel comfortable.

To me thats one of the biggest reasons that he will not ever be an elite QB. Hitting receivers in stride is a very important part of getting YAC and sustaining drives.
Originally posted by Shaj:
I was thinking about the hitting receivers in-stride thing. Warner was a master of that. Smith isn't. He also has trouble throwing receivers open or before they break. They generally have to already be open for him to feel comfortable.

what does that tell you?

Even with such great talent like Davis & Crabtree on his team he lacks the feel for the game in general

such great legends like Montana Young & Even Garcia really never had that problem

well whatever the case is there are NO MORE ALEXCUSES 2 years in the system a upgraded line more weapons at his disposal

TRULLY THE MAKE OR BREAK YEAR FOR NUMERO 11
Originally posted by Shaj:
I was thinking about the hitting receivers in-stride thing. Warner was a master of that. Smith isn't. He also has trouble throwing receivers open or before they break. They generally have to already be open for him to feel comfortable.

It depends on which plays you review. Last season he often hit Crabtree in stride in medium range passes, but didn't do as well in longer range passes - even though one can argue that two of Crabtree's spectacular TDs came from Smith spotting the ball quite well (one against the Packers and one against the Cardinals.)

It's interesting that the arguments against Smith now get down to the not-hitting-in-stride. That's quite an improvement from last season!
Originally posted by Shaj:
I was thinking about the hitting receivers in-stride thing. Warner was a master of that. Smith isn't. He also has trouble throwing receivers open or before they break. They generally have to already be open for him to feel comfortable.

thats the key word - comfortable. the talk this whole offesason has been his growing confidence within the system and his targets. we've seen him throw lasers & deep balls over the years albeit inconsistent so this right here is what will be the x factor to answer this tired ass alex debate.
Just look at Alex's highlights from last year, he can hit targets in stride when he has time to throw.
I agree that this year is Smith's year to finally have that break out year we have all been waiting for. Hate him or like him, back him or not HE'S OUR QB and although he's looked so-so in preseason it's just that...preseason. Not to pick on the Faders but they have had good preseasons last few years and nothing has come of it. Colts are notorious for playing horrible during the preseason only to work the entire league.

Give Smith a chance (his last chance) but don't expect a Montana, Young or even a Garcia type of QB. Expect Alex Smith to be Alex Smith. A QB who at best is an average NFL player. With our weapons, our D and that revamped O-Line having an average QB will lead us to the playoffs. After that we pull a Baltimore Ravens and let our D take over while Smith (much like Dilfer) controls the game and makes sure to just score 2-3 times.

#21 though sounds a bit tough.....but can't argue until Smith hits his receivers when open and in stride.
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Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Here's your poster boy:

21. Alex Smith, San Francisco 49ers

Analysis: It's hard to believe this is Smith's sixth season. The pressure is on him to get the 49ers to the playoffs. He has not lived up to his No. 1 billing in the draft, obviously, but the surrounding cast is good enough to make a playoff run. One of the faults I noticed when I saw him in the preseason is that he doesn't always hit receivers in stride.
Chance of being elite: 0 percent


It's very true elite QB's can hit a receiver in stride when they have to.

think why i still dont trust this guy even with a pro bowl cast we could end up not making the playoff's because of play

im not a Smith backer but i want the playoffs SO BAD that i really dont have no choice but back him.

Just imagine what kind of team we would have if we had A REAL NFL QB like lets say Drew Brees????..............

CHAD PENNINGTON DIVISION?!?!?!?! That list suprizes me....lists some interesting QBs there. One cats opinion though...Jawz sees improvement in Alex Smith....somebody is WRONG. But seeing as Jawz played football & Clayton didn't......I'll choose to agree with Jawz....plus I'll choose to believe Clayton eats paste still.
[ Edited by Nes49 on Aug 31, 2010 at 12:07 PM ]
Fantasy Football Owners tend to be more educated about the game....and usually Alex Smith does not get drafted.....so I would say this sounds about right. Most unbiased knowledgeable fans can list off a good 15-20 QB's they would prefer over Alex.