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Who do you want the pass rushers to be on 3rd down?

Who do you want the pass rushers to be on 3rd down?

Let's assume all these guys make the roster. Who's your first choice duo to rush the QB on third and passing yardage? (Leaving Lawson out, sorry)
Why would you leave Manny out?

FAIL
I was about to start a thread on pass rushers but will just include it in this one.

Don't you all think it is much better to have 4 guys who get around 5-8 sacks over one guy how gets 15?

If we have that one guy, offenses know exactly where the pressure will most likely come from. However, if almost every rusher is equally likely to get to the QB, the offense has more trouble trying to fill the leaks to the point where the help blocker will be spread thin.

On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?
Originally posted by Joecool:
I was about to start a thread on pass rushers but will just include it in this one.

Don't you all think it is much better to have 4 guys who get around 5-8 sacks over one guy how gets 15?

If we have that one guy, offenses know exactly where the pressure will most likely come from. However, if almost every rusher is equally likely to get to the QB, the offense has more trouble trying to fill the leaks to the point where the help blocker will be spread thin.

On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Agreed. Knowing you have 3 or 4 guys who can get to the QB is more effective than an offense concentrating on just one.
Brooks and Lawson.
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

Yes, that answers my question. But that's like answering this question with Michael Jordan, "Who's the NBA MVP?" during the 90's.

It's like "Michael Jord...yeah yeah, including everyone except for him.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

Yes, that answers my question. But that's like answering this question with Michael Jordan, "Who's the NBA MVP?" during the 90's.

It's like "Michael Jord...yeah yeah, including everyone except for him.

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Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

No because we say it wrong. (started from chating crowds.)


Football mispronunciation. This phenomenon is best exemplified in the words “offense” and “defense.” Both are correctly pronounced with the stress on the second syllable … except in football, which seems to have a special dispensation from correct pronunciation and has caused most of our country to embrace OFFense and DEEfense. To be fair, the saying “The best defense is a good offense” sounds a little silly when the words are pronounced correctly; but that recognition seems to have given football full license to mispronounce those two words whenever they are used, not just when necessary for rhetorical effect.
[ Edited by KID9R on Aug 27, 2010 at 2:27 PM ]
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Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

No because we say it wrong. (started from chating crowds.)


Football mispronunciation. This phenomenon is best exemplified in the words “offense” and “defense.” Both are correctly pronounced with the stress on the second syllable … except in football, which seems to have a special dispensation from correct pronunciation and has caused most of our country to embrace OFFense and DEEfense. To be fair, the saying “The best defense is a good offense” sounds a little silly when the words are pronounced correctly; but that recognition seems to have given football full license to mispronounce those two words whenever they are used, not just when necessary for rhetorical effect.

Personally, I'd want Brooks and LaBoy to start with Haralson and Briggs coming in off the bench on RANDOM plays. The point is that the pass rush should be coming on every down from all four of the LB's at any time mixed in with pressure from the d-line, safeties and CB's.

We run a VERY vanilla base 3-4 that way in that Manusky brings in our "pass rushers" on 3rd downs in predictable situations telegraphing to the offense what we are going to do. This is the equivalent of a Jimmy Raye 1st down call.

So really, I want all four OLB's in there at unpredictable times, some rushing, some dropping back in zone coverage, both rushing, etc.

Manusky has some weapons...he just needs to use them now and have a short leash for Lawson/Haralson if they continue to fail on first and second downs.
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

No because we say it wrong. (started from chating crowds.)


Football mispronunciation. This phenomenon is best exemplified in the words “offense” and “defense.” Both are correctly pronounced with the stress on the second syllable … except in football, which seems to have a special dispensation from correct pronunciation and has caused most of our country to embrace OFFense and DEEfense. To be fair, the saying “The best defense is a good offense” sounds a little silly when the words are pronounced correctly; but that recognition seems to have given football full license to mispronounce those two words whenever they are used, not just when necessary for rhetorical effect.

And what in the hell does that have to do with one "eff" and two "effs"? Sheesh...you try and ask a simple question and people get on a tangent. Some nerve.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Personally, I'd want Brooks and LaBoy to start with Haralson and Briggs coming in off the bench on RANDOM plays. The point is that the pass rush should be coming on every down from all four of the LB's at any time mixed in with pressure from the d-line, safeties and CB's.

We run a VERY vanilla base 3-4 that way in that Manusky brings in our "pass rushers" on 3rd downs in predictable situations telegraphing to the offense what we are going to do. This is the equivalent of a Jimmy Raye 1st down call.

So really, I want all four OLB's in there at unpredictable times, some rushing, some dropping back in zone coverage, both rushing, etc.

Manusky has some weapons...he just needs to use them now and have a short leash for Lawson/Haralson if they continue to fail on first and second downs.

Didn't we at times move Lawson to TED with Brooks and Haralson in at Will and Sam?
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
On a tangent: why is defense spelled with one "eff" and offense spelled with two "effs"?

Because it's the English Language.

No because we say it wrong. (started from chating crowds.)


Football mispronunciation. This phenomenon is best exemplified in the words “offense” and “defense.” Both are correctly pronounced with the stress on the second syllable … except in football, which seems to have a special dispensation from correct pronunciation and has caused most of our country to embrace OFFense and DEEfense. To be fair, the saying “The best defense is a good offense” sounds a little silly when the words are pronounced correctly; but that recognition seems to have given football full license to mispronounce those two words whenever they are used, not just when necessary for rhetorical effect.

And what in the hell does that have to do with one "eff" and two "effs"? Sheesh...you try and ask a simple question and people get on a tangent. Some nerve.

lol not a thing. Keep your your Cool.