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Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

His hands and attitude seem to be superior to Morgan's. I'm with you.

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

His hands and attitude seem to be superior to Morgan's. I'm with you.

i dont like morgan as a #2 i hope ginn can move up to #2 morgan #3 ziggy/hill #4

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

His hands and attitude seem to be superior to Morgan's. I'm with you.

i dont like morgan as a #2 i hope ginn can move up to #2 morgan #3 ziggy/hill #4

#2's gotta block, for this reason I love Morgan. His blocking was amazing last year but I agree his pass catching regressed a bit. I love Ziggy and Ginn, though Ziggy more, but Blocking is not there strong point, especially with Ginn. For that reason alone Morgan has no challenge to his position. If Morgan gets injured Im guessing DWalker would take his place as a #2 in running situations with Byham taking Walkers place as the second TE.

Originally posted by Gavintech:
How does someone that that wasn't drafted and hasn't even made an opening day roster after three full training camps get a nickname?

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

We have. I don't see how he's magically going to be able to return punts/kicks when he was never able to do it in the past, in college and the pros, and has failed when given the chance in 2008 and 2009, in college and the pros.

Quote:
Singletary's Notebook: Aug. 19
Posted 2 hours ago

On whether he would consider Zeigler as a punt returner:
“You know, he’s more of an emergency guy for us, but I know there are a couple of things about Zeigler. He is a very dependable guy; he has been up to this point. So its certainty a situation which if we had to we would.”

On Zeigler’s willingness to go across the middle and make a catch:
“He is a unique guy. He is very unselfish and he doesn’t mind going across the middle, going underneath, doing some of the dirty work. He is a guy that does everything for us. He wears a lot of different hats. He can play any of the receiver positions, gives us some flexibility and he’s really good on special teams as well. So he gives us flexibility at that position.”

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

According to you, which means nothing in terms of the roster spot. If you were the head coach, your opinion on this would count....fortunately for Zeigler, your opinion (and mine for that matter) is worthless. All that counts is what the coaching staff thinks about him, and so far, he's shown enough value to warrant more time as a punt returner than Jason Hill.

That, my friend, is a fact, regardless of what you think or say.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by 49ersrgolden:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Gavintech...Worth is a relative term.

Zeigler has shown "worth" because he has shown the ability to return punts.

You can stop right there. HE HAS NOT. He's shown that he's no better than anyone would be. He's shown absolutely nothing to prove any worth what-so-ever. He's proved that he can't judge the ball and muffs them when they come down for two preseasons. Just because they want him to good at it, doesn't mean he's shown anything to give the idea he will be.

Ziggy is making plays everyday and so has reggie smith...i say lets see what ziggy can do in a game

We have. I don't see how he's magically going to be able to return punts/kicks when he was never able to do it in the past, in college and the pros, and has failed when given the chance in 2008 and 2009, in college and the pros.

Like I've been saying:

Quote:
Singletary's Notebook: Aug. 19
Posted 2 hours ago

On whether he would consider Zeigler as a punt returner:
“You know, he’s more of an emergency guy for us, but I know there are a couple of things about Zeigler. He is a very dependable guy; he has been up to this point. So its certainty a situation which if we had to we would.”

On Zeigler’s willingness to go across the middle and make a catch:
“He is a unique guy. He is very unselfish and he doesn’t mind going across the middle, going underneath, doing some of the dirty work. He is a guy that does everything for us. He wears a lot of different hats. He can play any of the receiver positions, gives us some flexibility and he’s really good on special teams as well. So he gives us flexibility at that position.”

Just admit you were wrong, and that your opinion has nothing to do with how the coaching staff sees Zeigler...then we can get on to other things.