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The Scot McLoughan legacy with the niners... what is it?

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I know his legacy with us won't be cooked until a couple more years, but as of now, what is his legacy with the niners? How will he be remembered? My sense is he will be remembered as an average GM and Personnel Director - big hits and big misses, but also not a lot of consistency. And maybe that he was too rigid in the types of players that he looked for. He got us some good players though... most notably Gore, Wills, and Davis off the top of my head. Outside of Justin Smith, not sure how good his FA deals were though, but I'm sure I'm not remembering some.
I'm still not exactly sure why he was let go. Some say he had a drinking problem and some say he had family problems. What is it?

[ Edited by pelos21 on Aug 1, 2010 at 13:25:36 ]
Originally posted by pelos21:
I'm still not exactly sure why he was let go? Some say he had a drinking problem and some say he had family problems. What is it?

He was so drunk he didn't realize he had problems with Uncle Sam every April, and his wife got pissed about it.
Originally posted by pelos21:
I'm still not exactly sure why he was let go. Some say he had a drinking problem and some say he had family problems. What is it?

Scot was having intense family issues which led to him being sloppy on the job (with instability issues; drinking, and possibly f**king hookers on the road), and he was dismissed about 3-4 months previous to his first divorce/custody hearing with his wife during (what I believe was) January.

So we can only hope that right now he's cleaning his life up before he starts his next gig in Seattle (where he could be taking a consultant-based role).
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where did this drinking thing come from? I hadn't read that anywhere....
Originally posted by Shaj:
where did this drinking thing come from? I hadn't read that anywhere....

what, for reals?
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“I understand now that the job can’t consume your life,’’ McCloughan told the Boston Globe. “I’m still young, and I still love football. But it was consuming my life, and it’s just not as important as your health or taking care of your family.’’

Ultimately, McCloughan got overwhelmed by the dual responsibilities of balancing his time between overseeing the 49ers' personnel department and being a father and a husband.

“I got almost numb,’’ McCloughan said. “And I had no one to blame but myself. I was losing my family, and I sat back and had to think about that. As we know in this business, jobs come and go. Family doesn’t. Those three kids, you’ve got a chance to impact their lives, and I wanted to be a part of that.’’

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Well this is certainly interesting. Today on KNBR, Damon Bruce said that former GM Scot McCloughan’s personal problem was alcoholism. Bruce mentioned that McCloughan missed meetings at the combine, and also showed up drunk to a couple of meetings.
So that explains everything. I wonder many shots of liquor did Scott McCloughan take before drafting Kentwan Balmer…

Had personal issues..and might have hit the bottle too hard
Alex Smith is his legacy and passing on Deshawn Jackson.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith is his legacy and passing on Deshawn Jackson.

His biggest fails:

1) Alex Smith
2) Jonas Jennings
3) Nate Clements, for THAT price tag (otherwise a solid pickup)


His biggest hits:

1) Willis
2) Gore
3) Davis

I didn't give him credit for Crabtree because I think that was just lucky that he fell that far. Even I would have gotten that draft pick right.
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith is his legacy and passing on Deshawn Jackson.

His biggest fails:

1) Alex Smith
2) Jonas Jennings
3) Nate Clements, for THAT price tag (otherwise a solid pickup)


His biggest hits:

1) Willis
2) Gore
3) Davis

I didn't give him credit for Crabtree because I think that was just lucky that he fell that far. Even I would have gotten that draft pick right.

Why not Crabtree, they could have passed on him because of the same concerns all the other teams had.
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith is his legacy and passing on Deshawn Jackson.

His biggest fails:

1) Alex Smith
2) Jonas Jennings
3) Nate Clements, for THAT price tag (otherwise a solid pickup)


His biggest hits:

1) Willis
2) Gore
3) Davis

I didn't give him credit for Crabtree because I think that was just lucky that he fell that far. Even I would have gotten that draft pick right.

Why not Crabtree, they could have passed on him because of the same concerns all the other teams had.

This
I think Scot has his merits and have re-builded the team to a certain level. But like most rebuilding team, it took more than one GM and HC to get the team back up to contention. Sort of like Tampa Bay where it kind of started with Sam Wyche, went through a couple of coaches that makes the team better and then ended up with Jon Gruden getting the glory.
Scotty M was better than average. SF was lucky to have his services because the players he brought here are the main reason the niners will probably make the playoffs this year. The niners were really bad before he got to SF.
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith is his legacy and passing on Deshawn Jackson.

His biggest fails:

1) Alex Smith
2) Jonas Jennings
3) Nate Clements, for THAT price tag (otherwise a solid pickup)


His biggest hits:

1) Willis
2) Gore
3) Davis

I didn't give him credit for Crabtree because I think that was just lucky that he fell that far. Even I would have gotten that draft pick right.

To be fair (i still hate scott) but he had no say in drafting alex smith no say in brining in Jonas he was an assistant to the Gm then. His brother get's the credit on Gore. I hear an insider say back in that yr that his brother pushed hard and scott was nervous because of the injury's.
Originally posted by fister30:
Scotty M was better than average. SF was lucky to have his services because the players he brought here are the main reason the niners will probably make the playoffs this year. The niners were really bad before he got to SF.

I'm not even sure that you can separate the legacy of Nolan and McCloughan. They both have their stamp all over this team.

I actually think that Nolan would have made quite a good GM. But I reckon that McCloughan is really nothing more than average.

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