Originally posted by Jersey9er:Originally posted by abowers1984:Originally posted by Jersey9er:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by Jersey9er:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by Jersey9er:Originally posted by Joecool:
He's got until 3 quarters of the way into 2010 to prove himself. If he keeps pulling the same BS inconsistent throws, then I'll be the first to want to give him a backhand, send him out the door with a kick in the rear, total his car so he has to walk home and thank him for 6 freaking years of being the pathetic reason for being the key cog in some God awful Offenses that kept us out of the playoffs.
Yeah cool, you know i love to chuck it up with ya brotha, but come on. I mean i know you dont like him, but after 3 quarters. I mean s**t, we gave hill the entire next season after returning to see what he could do. So how about you give smith the same courtesy.
Jersey! Read it again! He said 12 games not 45 mins!
Lol. Thanks English for the correction, my mistake, but really brotha. you wrote back just to tell me that. How about you add something to the discussion. How do you feel about it?
I've said my piece on the subject of Smith several hundred times and got tired of the fatuous "Alexcuses" crud every time you try to discuss the situation. There is no logical argument to be had here right now. We have no idea where Davis is, none of the draftees look like starting material and I don't like the FA options. And anyway, whoever starts will have a hard time and look like crap unless we fix the line. When the line is fixed I shall be happy to see if Smith has taken advantage of the stable situation and training as a starter, and working closely with Crabtree and VD. And if he doesn't then no doubt we will try Davis if he has come along.
I don't really want to see Davis thrown to the wolves as Smith was, though he would at least have Crabtree.
Nothing new here, which is why I didn't post before. I just wanted to save you getting panned!
Well brotha, i gotta say thanks, and to be real, this was one of the best responses i've had in a long time. Express your opinion, make some very valid points, especially when talkin in the zone, and above all realize that there's nothing out there better than smith at this point to be had.
I agree if a HOF qb becomes available then i'm straight Alex Who! But like you i just dont see that happening. And i say the same about Davis, a lot on here talk about his pre-season, and i just say if you really like the kid, then realize he has a learning disability. Cuz he'd probably been out of the NFL if he was drated in 05, and just thrown to the wolves. So i say let him do it right if anything else, and sit and learn.
And what about when Nate outperforms Alex in the preseason??? It will probably be followed by the typical remarks "it was against players who wont be in the league in two weeks" or "it was done with a simplified playbook".
The fact remains, Nate is more of a natural playmaker than Smith but might not have the mental capacity for the position. So until they actually get a chance to compete head to head against equal competition, we really wont know who is the more capable signal caller.
Well i dont know if you've ever watched Chapelle Show, but my response to this is, well some people say cucumbers taste better pickled. lol. Check it, i know your not that high on smith and thats ok, but you can't actually think that if Smith and Davis (at least right now), if they go head to head that he'll beat out Smith.
I aint even gonna say too much because as everyone says it's pre-season. Now the biggest comment you made and out of your own mouth is this, " but might not have the mental capacity for the position." Now you said how can you find out his talent if you dont put them against one another head to head. Well i dont think Davis is there yet. have you forgotten that for 85% of the season he played WR and a few other positions. And only within the last few games had he seen time at QB.
IN the developmental phase as a team, do you know how difficult it would be since he does have the disability, and learns more from visual aides to cater the offense to meet his needs, at this point. He'd need an entire offseason 100% to probably completely grasp the offense. He'd have to spend one entire season as the no 2 backup before just throwin him to the wolves.
So while I too like Davis, the worst thing would be to put him in now. IMHO
No - I am completely confident that Davis would beat Smith in a head-to-head competition. His physical skills are superior to Smith's and he seems to possess the instincts that Smith has never exhibited, and which cannot be taught.
Additionally, people continue to infer that since Davis was playing scout team defense, he must not have been getting anytime to study the playbook. The truth is he just wasn't getting any reps during 11-on-11 or 7-on-7, and neither does the 2nd string QB (operates scout team offense). However during the other 6 hours a day dedicated to position drills and film study, he gets just as many physical and mental reps.
Davis was drafted to play QB for this team and it is his job, as well as the job of the QB coach to ensure that he is completely up to speed in terms of the playbook, so that he's ready should he be forced to play for whatever reason. So to state that his rookie season was a complete waste in terms of advancing his abilities as a QB and knowledge of the offense is absolutely incorrect. At this point, I feel it is safe to say that Nate's knowledge of the basic playbook is on par with Smith's. The only area where Smith probably has an advantage is with making pre-snap reads and audibles at the LOS.
[ Edited by abowers1984 on Jan 31, 2010 at 2:19 AM ]