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Why was Sing hired in the first place?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He represented great value to the YORKIES. Instead of paying $5 - $6 MILLION they got a bargain basement value HC. That's what they always seek. Good value rather than a great coach with experience. Plus they didn't have to go through the TEDIUS interview process of looking at 3, 5, 7 candidates and narrowing it down which is stressful and time consuming. The YORKIES have been mailing it in for years. They don't try. That should be obvious by now.

1) Great Value (CHEAP).
2) Don't have to go through the tedius interview process (too much work).

Plus we have JED "Silver Spoon" YORKIE who is a 27 year old Billionaires kid who ZERO experience at anything in life. He is completely overmatched and overwhelmed. Singletary probably gave him one good speech or said some motivational words about Vernon Davis and Spoon gave him the job.

Our organization is a joke. Probably only the Raiders and Lions are worse.
Because he took a 2-5 team and finished 5-4.
Because the players wanted him.
Because there really was nobody better available at the time.
Because it was the logical thing to do.

-9fA
Originally posted by tommyncal:
This is really not meant to start a debate again on those who support Singletary and those who don't. I don't. I'm just curious to those who 'do' support him and his hiring, why did York hire him? What qualified him to be a NFL head coach? A 5-4 record after he took over from his mentor? Because he sent V Davis to the locker room? His history as a HOF player? What? He had 1, yes, 1 year as a linebackers coach! He was never a coordinator, never coached in college, never game planned and never called plays, offensively or defensively! I don't believe he has worked long enough in the league to establish any network of coaches, thus having to establish his own network over time. What OL coach does he have a relationship with that he could hire if he fires Forester? He was made assistant head coach by Nolan strictly for his motivational skills. Which I believe he used on York to hire him. He is a great man and I love to listen to him speak, but, I'd rather have the future of the niners in a more qualified coach. Singletary will put everything he has to be a successful HC, I just wonder how long it will take. I think a very long time, if at all.
I don't post much on here, but read the zone everyday, but I am so frustrated with the front office I had to type something out. Fire away, would love to hear your opinions.

Motivation goes a long way. He took a 2 win team and motivated them onto a 7-9 season in 08.
After the way the 9ers finished in 2008, it was impossible not to hire him.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He represented great value to the YORKIES. Instead of paying $5 - $6 MILLION they got a bargain basement value HC. That's what they always seek. Good value rather than a great coach with experience. Plus they didn't have to go through the TEDIUS interview process of looking at 3, 5, 7 candidates and narrowing it down which is stressful and time consuming. The YORKIES have been mailing it in for years. They don't try. That should be obvious by now.

1) Great Value (CHEAP).
2) Don't have to go through the tedius interview process (too much work).

Plus we have JED "Silver Spoon" YORKIE who is a 27 year old Billionaires kid who ZERO experience at anything in life. He is completely overmatched and overwhelmed. Singletary probably gave him one good speech or said some motivational words about Vernon Davis and Spoon gave him the job.

Our organization is a joke. Probably only the Raiders and Lions are worse.

I find it amusing that it seems just me and San Diego 49er are the only ones calling the Yorkies out as cheap skates. I wonder where all the York haters went after DumpYork.com stop being maintained? I think I am the only one who came here.
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He represented great value to the YORKIES. Instead of paying $5 - $6 MILLION they got a bargain basement value HC. That's what they always seek. Good value rather than a great coach with experience. Plus they didn't have to go through the TEDIUS interview process of looking at 3, 5, 7 candidates and narrowing it down which is stressful and time consuming. The YORKIES have been mailing it in for years. They don't try. That should be obvious by now.

1) Great Value (CHEAP).
2) Don't have to go through the tedius interview process (too much work).

Plus we have JED "Silver Spoon" YORKIE who is a 27 year old Billionaires kid who ZERO experience at anything in life. He is completely overmatched and overwhelmed. Singletary probably gave him one good speech or said some motivational words about Vernon Davis and Spoon gave him the job.

Our organization is a joke. Probably only the Raiders and Lions are worse.

I find it amusing that it seems just me and San Diego 49er are the only ones calling the Yorkies out as cheap skates. I wonder where all the York haters went after DumpYork.com stop being maintained? I think I am the only one who came here.

If we had a GM who knows something about football, he would have realized that 2009 was probably going to be a test year for Alex Smith and to be patient because there may be some notable coaches available. However, he thought we need consistency so bad so he settled for less.

Now, McCloughan's future is tied to Singletary's future. I think Singletary will be a very good coach but his future seems to be tied to Raye's future and Raye is the key that won't open the doors.
The two main reasons that Sing was hired was Mike Martz and Shuan Hill. Those two men were the biggest reasons he was hired and you know what happened to them.


No loyalty.
It was the easy way out for York.
Originally posted by susweel:
The two main reasons that Sing was hired was Mike Martz and Shuan Hill. Those two men were the biggest reasons he was hired and you know what happened to them.


No loyalty.

totaly right, singletary acted when he realized that martz would not evolve his system to accommdate the TE as a playmaker, his continued suck butt play calling in the red zone didnt help not to mention mm's seeming unwillingness to modify his scheme to fit the players or at least support their growth. oh ya benching jto was a total mistake too
[ Edited by Allx9er on Jan 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM ]
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by sacniner:
It was the obvious choice. He took over and it was clear the team was playing a lot harder for him. He kicked VD off the field, brought some authority and credibility. York had to hire him, if not he would of got railed on by fans and media (unless he got a Shanahan or Holmgren type). Sing deserves another year also.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Can't really blame York for sticking with Sing.

No hindsight involved for me. I didn't like the hire from the start. And I'm not saying Sing did a bad job this year, although he didn't do a good job either. I'm looking more at the long term outlook. They played harder for him than Nolan; not a good enough reason to hire him. Most qualified HC's bring authority and credibility. Railed by the fans? Only shows York is unsure of himself and his inexperience. I'm tired of waiting year after year. Just puts the niners another year behind.

lol you were the guy that said "why did we hire this Bill Walsh guy....ever since he came hes putting all this blind faith in that Montana kid from Notre Dame. he doesnt have the arm. this isnt working, hes been here 2 years now and hes 8-24. bad hire."

FAIL.

have some patience, Dennis Erickson had plenty of coaching experience at all levels, and he was horrible. Mike Nolan had been a very successful position coach as well as D-Coor. he was horrible too. experience doesnt mean anything, its results. Sing got immediate results from this team that Nolan couldnt get. with time, he will get things going.

i cant beleive after a whole season of seeing this team go from defensive mediocrity to defensive dominance, top 5 in sacks, 1st in the NFL in forced fumbles, top 5 rush D, etc, and and offense that produced 2 of the best pass catching weapons weve seen since T.O., that people calling Sing a bad coach.

anyone remember 2003-2008 mid season? i do. this team is WAY better. this is the most talented, disciplined, team oriented 49ers ive seen since Steve Mariucci was the coach.

HOLY CRAP, a logical and coherent response on the webzone? I might have to start checking back here. good post man.
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He represented great value to the YORKIES. Instead of paying $5 - $6 MILLION they got a bargain basement value HC. That's what they always seek. Good value rather than a great coach with experience. Plus they didn't have to go through the TEDIUS interview process of looking at 3, 5, 7 candidates and narrowing it down which is stressful and time consuming. The YORKIES have been mailing it in for years. They don't try. That should be obvious by now.

1) Great Value (CHEAP).
2) Don't have to go through the tedius interview process (too much work).

Plus we have JED "Silver Spoon" YORKIE who is a 27 year old Billionaires kid who ZERO experience at anything in life. He is completely overmatched and overwhelmed. Singletary probably gave him one good speech or said some motivational words about Vernon Davis and Spoon gave him the job.

Our organization is a joke. Probably only the Raiders and Lions are worse.

I find it amusing that it seems just me and San Diego 49er are the only ones calling the Yorkies out as cheap skates. I wonder where all the York haters went after DumpYork.com stop being maintained? I think I am the only one who came here.

I find it amusing that you are agreeing with a troll that said only the Raiders and the Lions have a worse organization than us. I can name quite a few off the top of my head. Rams, Seahawks, Browns (Holmgren hasn't proven anything yet), Chiefs, Buccs and I'm sure there are more.

I can't believe I'm seeing so much complaining after Sing took us to our first non losing season in 7 years. Also, take a look around the NFL and you'll realize the 49ers are on the way up, not stuck in the dregs anymore like all the teams I listed above.
He was hired because ownership really does not know how to identify good HC candidates. That does not mean that Sing can't be a good HC. I am just saying, if we ever have a great HC it will be pure luck, because ownership quite frankly has no idea what they are doing. Aside from spending the profits, the Yorks are quite useless.
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Because he took a 2-5 team and finished 5-4.
Because the players wanted him.
Because there really was nobody better available at the time.
Because it was the logical thing to do.

-9fA

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Because he took a 2-5 team and finished 5-4.
Because the players wanted him.
Because there really was nobody better available at the time.
Because it was the logical thing to do.

-9fA

/ Thread.
He was lucky enough to follow Nolan, who set any replacement up to look good by his own ineptidude. The team couldn't go anywhere but up after they fired Nolan.
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