49ers Have Never Been Beaten this Year...Only Out Coached

TonyMantana · 2009-12-21T10:30:47-08:00

Now I am getting pissed! This coaching staff is ruining this team. Bold statement #1. In every game our 49ers have played this year, they have been the most athleticly gifted and most physical team. Can any LB run with VD? Can any safety take down Gore in the open field? We have the most gifted defensive front seven in the league. Our O-line is made up of first or second round picks and they are strong talented, formerly succesful men. Yet every damn game we are completely out coached. When we go up against great head coaches like Andy Reid, it becomes galringly obvious. Is Philly a talented team, no doubt. But their coaches put them in a great position to succeed schematicly. They dictate what the other team is going to do. When your team is well coached, mediocre players can succeed. (see Matt Cassell in NE and now in KC) There was a play around 4:00 to go in the 1st quarter. A 3rd down play for the 49ers around mid field. Genius Jimmy Raye stacks 3 WRs to the left side with the entire play based around Alex's ability to stay in the pocket or throw left. Now here is where having coaching matters. Philly saw this and then brought the safety down to the line to apply hard pressure off the left side. Where Alex wanted to throw. Now understand the play it self was a failed design, where by outside of the left, Alex had no other options to throw to....no back sneaking out the right, no FB, TE...nothing. So Philly reconginzes that and stacks pressure on the side Alex wants to throw. With the un-blocked blitzer screaming at him, Alex is forced to now roll right, where he has lots of time and no pressure....but unfortunately also no one to throw the ball too. Alex throws it away and once again the Niners fail on third down. This was not our line's fault, it wasnt Alex's fault and the receievers were doing their job. Bottom line, is this play represents the fact that our coaches (mainly OC) is being out-mathced, out-schemed, all game long. More Examples... - we continue to run in bunched formations, and it is always a run. (I havent seen a flea flicker, screen or hell even play action ever run out of that formation). Every defense knows now when Norris enters the game...it is a run. - Offense continues to let the defense dictate the play (no audibles, or read and react is going on). When was the last time you saw the play come in quick enough for Alex to get to the line and even have time to call an audible??? - Have they ever sent Brandon Jones on a vertical route??? - When a team is obviously bring heavy pressure, have you ever seen the 49ers run a play to take advatange of that?? Have you ever heard the annoucers say, the 49ers did a good job of taking advantage of that blitz?? No. While other teams actually hope and wait for the 49ers to blitz in order to take adavantage of it with screens, quick slants and deep bombs. - End of game decisions, when to call time outs, what plays to run, how to run time of the clock, how to go for the juglar. The 49ers have won 6 games because they were that much more gifted than the opponent and or had more heart (see Arizona twice). But every loss has come down to stupind decisions, and or being one step behind the other team. We are not getting pushed around, or out run. That was the team from '05. No this team loses do to (Xs and Os). What a shame

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM

susweel
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Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Eastcoast49er
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I agree why not try to run out the clock end of half then go in and regroup no we give Alex the throw option pick lucky us only gave up 3 could have been 6. The simple stuff is what they need to fix, stick to the gut plays don't take chances when you don't have to.

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM

luv49rs
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Originally posted by susweel:
Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

This.

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM

jimbagg
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Eh, the coaching performance can improve like everything else, but the coacxhes didn't produce the 4 turnovers that cost the game.

This coaching staff was embarassed vs Atlanta. Yesterday, not so much. However, any defensive scheme that consistently calls for Michael Lewis to be responsible for deep coverage of DeSean Jackson, as happened on many plays yesterday, is certainly a flawed startegy.

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM

nvninerfan1
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Originally posted by Eastcoast49er:
I agree why not try to run out the clock end of half then go in and regroup no we give Alex the throw option pick lucky us only gave up 3 could have been 6. The simple stuff is what they need to fix, stick to the gut plays don't take chances when you don't have to.

I was listening to the commentator ask why Philly called and time out, and then the pick and the other commentator said "that's why'. I have to agree we had nothing to gain from doing anything but running out the clock.

As for the premise that we have been outcoached, maybe you should call the Niners and ask for the HC job.

Dec 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM

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Yes, Raye does not plan drives, the third down failures are terrible. His play selection is predictable and does not attack the weakness of the defense, and he does not have an answer for defenses which stack the box or blitz. I do give him credit for getting Vernon into the offense, which Hos, Martz, etc. didn't do.

I don't think our front seven is that great. Look at Brooks -- he is now doing a lot better than Manny or Haralson in the same scheme that they have been using. It's not coaching -- I think Manusky is a great DC -- we just don't have good enough personnel to get a pass rush.

Also, the OL line personnel is not adequate. I don't care where they were picked. Snyder is strictly a backup, gets beat regularly by a speed rush. Baas,when he isn't injured, is mostly adequate but often not. Chilo will be a beast but he is still learning. Heitmann also gets beat more than he should. I don't know that the OL coach is very good, at least he is better than Warhop.

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Ohio49er
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So when Brett Farve hit that last-second touchdown and Roddy White publicly undressed Nate Clements, that was simply a matter of Mike Singletary sucking as a head coach?

Yeah, sure.

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM

NineFourNiner
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Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by susweel:
Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

This.

Why it gotta be a red head?

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM

PA9erFaithful
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by susweel:
Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

This.

Why it gotta be a red head?

Yeah, that's racist...

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM

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Envy
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I disagree with the original post. Its partly to do with coaching but frankly we have been poor during pivotal times and to be honest the talent level is not good enough.

Along with the O Line mentioned earlier the secondary is very poor. Sure they make some plays when it comes in front of them but very few of them can lockdown receivers either individually or as a double act.

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM

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luv49rs
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by susweel:
Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

This.

Why it gotta be a red head?

Yeah, that's racist...

if you aren't a redhead, you can't understand the crap you take for being one. hence, susweel's analysis is correct

Dec 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM

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NineFourNiner
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Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by susweel:
Maybe you haven't watch our O line play, they get beaten like a red headed step child.

This.

Why it gotta be a red head?

Yeah, that's racist...

if you aren't a redhead, you can't understand the crap you take for being one. hence, susweel's analysis is correct

I have a red beard. So there.

Dec 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM

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nvninerfan1
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Red Beards.....Wouldn't that make you a Viking?

Dec 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM

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SybErkRimInAL
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i dyed my pubes red once. Looked like road kill down there.