LOL ! at the Alex Smith Fan Club....

Originally posted by wwrivers:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:
The fact that we lost to a "mediocre team who won't sniff the Playoffs" should be a bit concerning to you ZRF.

But hey, okay, let's take this a step further.

The fact that your boy Shaun threw a whopping 45 yds & no score in the 1st half should have you putting a gun to your head as you're wondering where we went wrong.

I'll tell you where if you put that thing down.

We went wrong when Hill was named QB1.

Let me sum it up like this.

Shaun Hill= 5 1/2 games played. 155 Attempts, 87 Completions, 56.1 Completion %, 6.1 YDS PER ATTEMPT, 5 TDs' ,2 INTs', 18 Sacks, 107 yds lost( Avg of about 6 yds per sack) and a QB Rating(your favorite stat) of 79.6

Okay now you ready? I don't want you to pull the trigger or step out on a ledge now.

Alex Smith 22 Attempts 15 Completions 68.2 Comp. %, 9.4 yds per attempt, 3 TD's, 1 INT(in a comeback bid), ZERO Sacks, For a QB Rating of 118.6

Alex did that in ONE HALF trying to pull us out of the hole that your man Shaun dug.

You talk out your bum about our Defense. For if Shaun could have kept more than his average 1.43(actually it's less) drives going then Alex would NEVER have seen the field. The Defense would not have been as GASSED game in and game out and you would never have put that .38 Special to your head.

Oh and did I mention that Alex did all that behind the SAME Line as Shaun didn't put up numbers behind?

I've stated all along that Shaun didn't work behind the same unit that Alex had to stand behind. Well this time the shoe is on the other foot and Alex performed admirably behind the SAME unit that Shaun was getting pummeled behind.

Just let the hate go bro.

Let it go.

~Ceadder

While I agree with most of what you posted, I have to take exception with the part about us going wrong starting Hill at the beginning of the season. Hill had to start. He played well enough to win games last year. He helped Sing get the job as HC. At the beginning of the season most fans weren't ready to see Smith play again--they would have jumped on every bad pass as proof positive that he was a bust. Plus, it no doubt helped Smith to sit and learn the offense for the first few games.

Putting Smith in now is the only way to salvage the season. Smith comes in as a hero, not a loser who was handed the QB job (as in the past). This is the only way he could have a chance to succeed. Plus, if Hill had played well enough to keep winning, he deserved to be the starter.

Now do you think Hill will still be on the team next year? I doubt it.

I think that Hill will be on the team this time next year. He won't be QB1 barring injury, but he's got a contract that is current. I see no reason not to keep him on the team behind Alex.

I agree that Hill needed to start, but don't agree that it was the best for the team and the season.

And while people would have pointed at every wrong thing done, we're back at that point now. Look at the instigator of this thread. I know that some have gone 180, but ZRF is a die hard Smith hater. Smith could be holding the 9ers 6th Lombardi over his head and ZRF would find SOMETHING to whine about.

~Ceadder

alex smith > shaun hill

and that's all that really matters right now. we're putting our team in the best position to win. i'm not saying alex is drew brees or even kyle orton right now, but he's a lot better than hill

Originally posted by ZRF80:
Forget that we lost to a mediocre team that wont even sniff the playoffs. Forget that our top 10 defense has fallen from grace. Forget that we went from 3-1 (easily 4-0) to 3-3 and most probably 3-4 after next Sunday....

Oh no, forget all those useless tidbits.

The Zone here is having one of those "my boner's out of my boxers" moment where they see Alex Smith perform one of his rare "magic tricks" that dazzle the crowds, bamboozle the misinformed, and electrify the masses. Thats right folks. After ALL that hard work, Alex Smith has arrived. And so has, miraculously, his forgotten arm. The once considered "bust" of Niner lore has finally learned through divine intervention how to throw a ball...........and man, arent we impressed ?

Of course, no one here will acknowledge that our playoff dreams for 2009 are shattered; our once promising season is now down the drain. No......we'd rather immerse ourselves in the greatness that is Alex Smith. So here we go again.....a lot of miscues, misthrows, and superb 87.5 QB ratings along with the all too familiar 15/22 for 136 yards passing stats. Of course, we'll see the occasional 200-250 yard games where we've been put out by the opponent by halftime, then Smith will go on a tear in the 4th quarter against 3rd stringers.

And at the end, when it's all said and done.......our GLARING need for a legit QB will be forgotten for yet another year, cause we'll all be convinced that Joe Montana has been reborn in San Fran.

It's become an all too familiar tune in the Bay Area.

Good luck in Indy this week Alex. Im sure you'll rip Manning a new one.

What a ridiculous load of steaming crap...

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

Drew Brees is a perfect example. He was terrible his first several years. Now he's unbelievable.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

Drew Brees is a perfect example. He was terrible his first several years. Now he's unbelievable.

Ummmmmmmm...



Drew Brees had a stint where he was solid but then had a really bad year(s?) and San Diego didn't want to take the chance and went after Rivers who did not get to see the field when Brees bounced back. They traded him and Brees has been damn solid ever since.

Not a good example at all. No offense.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

I'm pretty sure we're talking QBs' here. Don't know why Ced Benson was offered up.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

Drew Brees is a perfect example. He was terrible his first several years. Now he's unbelievable.

Ummmmmmmm...



Drew Brees had a stint where he was solid but then had a really bad year(s?) and San Diego didn't want to take the chance and went after Rivers who did not get to see the field when Brees bounced back. They traded him and Brees has been damn solid ever since.

Not a good example at all. No offense.

~Ceadder

When he first started he was pretty bad. Although not Alex Smith bad. Then he was good and later got injured. Now he is recovered and great.

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Roman 'FREAKIN' Gabriel! -The guy could throw over 80 yards, but couldn't secure a starting job until mid-career, due to inconsistency and injury ('real' injuries).

Five years after being drafted as the 2nd pick in the 1st round (of 1962) he exploded onto the NFL, becoming a household name!

Could Alex Smith become the next Roman Gabriel?

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

Drew Brees is a perfect example. He was terrible his first several years. Now he's unbelievable.

Ummmmmmmm...



Drew Brees had a stint where he was solid but then had a really bad year(s?) and San Diego didn't want to take the chance and went after Rivers who did not get to see the field when Brees bounced back. They traded him and Brees has been damn solid ever since.

Not a good example at all. No offense.

~Ceadder

Um, Steve Young? Try 56.9 and 65.5 QB rating his first 2 years with the Bucs. Now tell me if our talent in 05 and 06 was much better than theirs? He didn't start coming on until year 7. Even with Rice, Taylor, Craig, Jones.... He only showed flashes at first. Seriously dude, look at the big picture. QB's need time and a good team around them.

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Cause Shaun Hill is so much better right now?

-9fA

I love the way he skipped over this post.

I'm in agreement. Our offense has done nothing all year with Shaun Hill except for maybe a quarter or 2. Smith really can't do much worse. His 2 quarters of play are better than anything Hill has done all year so far. I'm sure Smith wont play like that every game and anyone expecting that has their expectations too high, but at least he's proven he can move the ball a little better than Hill(at this point..)

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Just my theory:

Do you know why defenses are putting eight in the box against the Niners offense? It's not because of our running game, but because of Shaun Hill. Hill doesn't have the arm strength to throw vertically, therefore defenses are basically playing a cover 1 shell and bringing the strong safety to team up with the LBs up to clog up the short-to-intermediate routes.

Defenses have picked it up. They know ALL of Hill's strengths and weaknesses. During the last two games Shaun Hill's shortcomings have been exposed: He doesn't have the arm strength to make defenses play our team deep.

I agree. Dont get me wrong. Im in no position to defend Hill. I was hoping he could carry us for the rest of the season, but I guess he cant. I think Im just more disappointed that we dont have a legit QB on this roster to fill the void. The fact that the masses are gushing over Alex Smith and his one half of good play (compared to a career's worth of nothingness) just shows how devoid of talent this team really is. It also shows how delusional we've become as fans.

I wonder who the last "bust" becoming a superstar 4-5 years later was ? I'll have to think about that one.....

................Steve Young

Jim Plunkett?

cedric benson

Drew Brees

Phil Simms

Terry Bradshaw

Ooooh I got it. Eli freakin Manning.

They were ready to run ole Eli out of the Meadowlands.

~Ceadder

Vernon Davis.

I'm pretty sure we're talking QBs' here. Don't know why Ced Benson was offered up.

~Ceadder

I don't see that rule anywhere

~RonMexico