Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
This is funny I had to post. AS of an article I read today, One of the trainers who used to be a QB is now throwing to CTree till Hill gets back. Of course he's back now. So right, there was such fabulous chemistry they took Smith off the job and gave it to a trainer who used to be a QB to throw to him.
Imagine if you are Smith and even, tossing the ball to the new guy is taken away because, They don't the WR to get bad habits from catching Smith's balls!!!!!!!!! That's wot I think.. sad, but so true.
I am not definitely saying Hill is the man of the hour, but Smith's talent level is so low, it makes Hill the starter by default. Just ger Davis in I say. If Sanchez, Stafford, Ryan ( the qb who kicked our ass) and Flacco can do it, then Davis can too. Open your eyes, not everyone comes to the NFL from a trick offense without presence.. oh what's the use, it's all been said before..
Bust, he is, bust he is.
Ok then if you don't believe me, there was a great interview MM did with the guy who studies all the NFL game film and then comments for the NFL, this was a few days ago, and to my mind this is THE most scathing review of A Smith's abilities I have EVER read. To wit:
I know you haven't seen him play in two years, but is there where Alex Smith, because of his arm strength and the better physical tools, might be the better option at quarterback?
"Well, I don't think Alex Smith has particularly good physical tools. Certainly, we know Shaun Hill has an average to below-average NFL arm. You're right, we haven't seen Alex Smith throw in two years, but the last time we did see him throw and even when he came out (of college), I'd say Alex Smith's arm strength was slightly better than average - nothing more. I'm always leery - I know he's a smart kid - but I don't know how much he's learned. I'm not there. When you play in the Urban Meyer offense, and I can tell you for a fact, that when Alex Smith went through his board work for teams coming out of the draft that he had zero clue about NFL route combination's, which is not surprising. Because in Urban Meyer's offense, nobody does. I'm not a big Alex Smith guy. I think he has limited skills and I think he's got limited understanding."
You guys should really.......... GET OVER HIM!!!
GO NINERS BEAT THE TAXASSES!!
I read that too. But notice that he didn't ONCE mention Smith as a 9er. It was all re-hashed Urban Meyer BS. So if you're going to give it credence at least acknowledge that and give Smith some credit where it's due.
But hey if you're still butt hurt over Alex's 50 million contract, I understand that too.
As far as a former QB taking over for Smith working with Crabtree, it could be as simple as taking a precautionary measure to keep Smith ready to go in case of Sing's planning on yanking Hill if the man yet AGAIN goes 3 and out over the 1st half of a game.
I think what you don't understand is that Hill is nothing more than a Backup with limited intangibles, a weak pass, cement shoes( at least this season anyway) and what is shaping up to be slightly better than average leadership quality.
All I know is that if Smith gets another chance I hope that he either makes fools of all those who have trashed him, or shows us once and for all that he is not the guy with the same personnel that Hill has had. I think that it give Raye a better QB to open the playbook up with at least. Because it's being severely limited by having Shaun Hill under Center. That's not opinion. That's a straight up cold hard factual reality.
Well Cead.. (do you like cheese, or what?)
I did say Hill is not the answer (in bold) and that he is the starter by; default
. Only because he is the best we have at the moment without playing Davis to see about him, because, the coaches have seen all they want of Alex. It's a crap shoot to put him in to see if he is better than Hill.
As we all know here in the Zone' You can not play QB correctly, or at all, if you have 1.5-2 seconds to make a play and someone is in your face and sacking or hitting you.
Hill looked much better last year, why, blocking. Pretty simple.
His arm aint big, however it has been big enough to make 40+yrd TD passing plays on occasions when a WR actually gets open and the line is giving the QB 3 to 5 seconds to make a play. He normally does not throw the ball over their heads or at their feet, like someone we know.
After what we have seen, I can't imagine what Smith's playing would be like with the blocking Hill has, NOT, been getting, I just can't imagine. Handling rush pressure, to this point, has ahhh, not been his forte, you know?
You know, I like Smith as a guy, as a team guy, all that. I don't have any issues with his contract coz there is always more busts in the first round than all pros. But unless there is a miracle, or some unforeseen skill set that appears out of no where, Smith is not an upgrade to Hill..
BTW- Cosell works for the NFL, watches film all day, every day, the comments he made were on an NFL level, why does he have to mention Smith plays for the Niners when MM is there specifically, to talk about our Niners. He says his mechanics, his skill set are not good and haven't been good, to his eyes. His eyes have seen more NFL and Collage QBs play than you or anyone here on this internet site...
Smith, STILL, has not learned or, and here we go; "Gotten it" yet, he still doesn't do what he is supposed to do, I don't understand how any of you can argue the point still. Look who MS and the coaches choose, look-read what almost all NFL people say about him, look at his record, his stats, and on and on.. gezzzzzzzzzzz man.
So that's BS in my opinion... that Smith can make a big difference and that I don't like his contract or any of koolaid drinkin denunciations on this simple post i did..
Gosh, I feel so relieved! Now, if only the Oline can block, and IF they do, I think everyone sees the Hill from last year. Then guess what, the Smith talk goes away again till next time, and there will be; a next time..