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Stop blaming Raye . . .

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.

You new guys, I swear.

just cause us 'new guys' don't post every time we get a brain fart, doesn't make our opinions inferior to yours, I've been on this forum for years, just choose not to get into every ridiculous debate.

Never said your opinion was inferior to anyone, did I? As far as the rest of your statement, it is ridiculous IMO. Sing is the reason we were even in a Position to win. A year ago, we would have got smoked.

Get butt hurt if you want.
i've calmed down a bit so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt
We had soo many three and outs its sickening. Our defense can't run around forever and that showed today. Lawson and Smith were both gassed on that last play. Manny was 1 sec from ending it with a sack but you can just see how tired he was.

Roman also didn't have that last burst to make a play on D. He got burned by an equally s**tty player, Lewis.

Our O should have controlled that game and won it in the 4th quarter. They didn't. We could easily be 1-2.

I will not tolerate another defensive stand that I think won us the game just to have the offense go three and out and punt it right back.
when you're 0-11 on 3rd down and you want the other team to burn thier last timeout. You run. If the special teams would have contained harvin, we would have won. The gameplan was perfect, especially considering gore was out.
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Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.

Yeah its Raye's fault. We lose our best player on offense and Raye manages to squeeze 2 TD's out in the second half on the road against a top 5 defense and it's his fault. You guys a f**king ridiculous.
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when hill was hot in 4th we should have kept throwing the ball insted run run punt !


Your defense has play great all game and they need a TD to win. You pass and they almost have have 3 minutes to score, you run and they have to burn thier last time out and have under 2 minutes to score a TD. Not a FG. If it were a FG it would be a different story. It was the right call. Prevent defense was the wrong call.

Disagree with you. it worked for us in Arizona but not going to work for us every game. the D was on the field all day long we should have gambled a little not a lot bootleg , screen pass or a short pass to VD to get the first down or throw on first down ! the D was tired !

Exactly. You play to win the game. Not play NOT to lose. Hill had a hot hand in the 4th. Just ONE first down would have ended the game. Raye cant be that dumb... he will look at the tape and fix the problems (I hope) A play-action or a quick slant would have gained us more yards then the first 2 run plays.

Live and learn. Time to murder the Rams.
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
I posted this in another thread, but i wanna challenge the person who made this thread to find fault in my post:

Here's our playbook:

1 wildcat.
1. morgan motion/squat down play to Gore up the middle
1. vernon davis seam up the middle
1. screen to moran norris
1. beautiful deep dig route to Isaac Bruce.
1. Pitch to the outside


Can't help but agree!


oh and he ran a play action off of the motion squat by morgan twice, and it got like 6 yards. Thats probably a good reason why we didnt win the game, but i've been wrong before. Go watch the game again, but jsut watch our offense, and you'll notice how often he uses those 6-7 plays, its a joke.
0 for 11 on third downs.

Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.

Playmakers needed. Please apply.
Originally posted by MortimerC:
when you're 0-11 on 3rd down and you want the other team to burn thier last timeout. You run. If the special teams would have contained harvin, we would have won. The gameplan was perfect, especially considering gore was out.

How can you call a game plan perfect when the offense goes 0-11 on third down? That means the game plan sucked. Many of those were three and outs.

We were only in this game because of our defense and that blocked FG.

Otherwise its a blowout.
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.

Yeah its Raye's fault. We lose our best player on offense and Raye manages to squeeze 2 TD's out in the second half on the road against a top 5 defense and it's his fault. You guys a f**king ridiculous.
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when hill was hot in 4th we should have kept throwing the ball insted run run punt !


Your defense has play great all game and they need a TD to win. You pass and they almost have have 3 minutes to score, you run and they have to burn thier last time out and have under 2 minutes to score a TD. Not a FG. If it were a FG it would be a different story. It was the right call. Prevent defense was the wrong call.

Disagree with you. it worked for us in Arizona but not going to work for us every game. the D was on the field all day long we should have gambled a little not a lot bootleg , screen pass or a short pass to VD to get the first down or throw on first down ! the D was tired !

Yeah and if its imcomplete they have way too much time. Everyone knows Prevent prevent syou from winning the game. Even a delayed blitz would work. Either way we need to learn from this game and as long as we do keep improving we will be one hell of a team by the end of the year. We are still young in this offense and its seems we are opening it up more every week. We must be patient. We still have the division lead and need to be the Rams next week.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by MortimerC:
when you're 0-11 on 3rd down and you want the other team to burn thier last timeout. You run. If the special teams would have contained harvin, we would have won. The gameplan was perfect, especially considering gore was out.

How can you call a game plan perfect when the offense goes 0-11 on third down? That means the game plan sucked. Many of those were three and outs.

We were only in this game because of our defense and that blocked FG.

Otherwise its a blowout.

Same could be said about their kick return.
I like our offensive game plan. I didn't agree with some of the up the middle run calls, but as a whole, I like what I see on the field
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Originally posted by NickV:
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.

Yeah its Raye's fault. We lose our best player on offense and Raye manages to squeeze 2 TD's out in the second half on the road against a top 5 defense and it's his fault. You guys a f**king ridiculous.
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when hill was hot in 4th we should have kept throwing the ball insted run run punt !


Your defense has play great all game and they need a TD to win. You pass and they almost have have 3 minutes to score, you run and they have to burn thier last time out and have under 2 minutes to score a TD. Not a FG. If it were a FG it would be a different story. It was the right call. Prevent defense was the wrong call.

Disagree with you. it worked for us in Arizona but not going to work for us every game. the D was on the field all day long we should have gambled a little not a lot bootleg , screen pass or a short pass to VD to get the first down or throw on first down ! the D was tired !

Exactly. You play to win the game. Not play NOT to lose. Hill had a hot hand in the 4th. Just ONE first down would have ended the game. Raye cant be that dumb... he will look at the tape and fix the problems (I hope) A play-action or a quick slant would have gained us more yards then the first 2 run plays.

Live and learn. Time to murder the Rams.

You act like first downs where growing on tree's for us. lol
Originally posted by LanceQ:
I like our offensive game plan. I didn't agree with some of the up the middle run calls, but as a whole, I like what I see on the field

thats pretty sad
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by MortimerC:
when you're 0-11 on 3rd down and you want the other team to burn thier last timeout. You run. If the special teams would have contained harvin, we would have won. The gameplan was perfect, especially considering gore was out.

How can you call a game plan perfect when the offense goes 0-11 on third down? That means the game plan sucked. Many of those were three and outs.

We were only in this game because of our defense and that blocked FG.

Otherwise its a blowout.

If they dont return that TD on the kick off the games over. Lets blame the ST.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.

Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.

Playmakers needed. Please apply.

. . . oh wait...we drafted a playmaker . . .hmmm . . . he just doesn't want to play for an ultra conservative offensive philosphy, for any amount of money. Can you blame him?