49ers accuse Jets of Tampering *Updated*

Now that Crabtree has signed, he is more open to spill the beans if the Jet did contact him. Come on Crabs, help your team out and rat on the Jets, lets get some more draft picks.

I think that since Crabtree signed, any punishment versus the Jets will still be sanctioned, but that the rewards for the Niners will be lessened. Had he not signed, we would probably have benifited more in next years draft.

What I mean by that is the Jets will still loose picks/money but those picks will simply be lost instead of going to the Niners. We might get something in the mid-rounds for our "inconvenience", but nothing more IMO.

This has probably received enough attention that there is factual evidence of some misdeed. I would hope that the Niners get some sort of compensation for Crabtree missing out on half the season and that the Jets do get their hands slapped.

Why does it take so freaking long for the NFL to make a determination when it comes to tampering? It gets frustrating waiting and waiting for an answer.

Originally posted by NJNiner:
Why does it take so freaking long for the NFL to make a determination when it comes to tampering? It gets frustrating waiting and waiting for an answer.

They want to make sure they get it right the first time. Also, now that Crabtree is signed, they don't need to hurry. As long as they decide well before the draft, it's fine.

Niners should get a 2nd at least, if Jets offered Crabtree more money. I wouldn't be surprised if NFL makes an example of them and take away their 1st rounder instead.

Wait a minute guys. The signing has just changed everything. Sure the Jets will be punished but now we will just be compensated for the loss of training camp, the pre-seasons and 4 games. And this is already partially mitigated by the extra year on the contract.

Maybe a 5th at best. But the Jets to get docked a 1st or 2nd. Serve them right

Originally posted by English:
Wait a minute guys. The signing has just changed everything. Sure the Jets will be punished but now we will just be compensated for the loss of training camp, the pre-seasons and 4 games. And this is already partially mitigated by the extra year on the contract.

Maybe a 5th at best. But the Jets to get docked a 1st or 2nd. Serve them right

I think we will get more than that. Not necessarily a first, but at least a 3rd. Even if the Jets don't have one to give, the league can always award us a comp type pick and just take away another pick(s) to punish the Jets.

The reality is, we didn't just lose a few games, but in all likelihood, a significant ability for this player to affect our team this season. Who knows what difference he could have made in the Vikes game or in any other upcoming games where he either won't play or will play sparingly compared to if he had been signed early on.

And the difference his presence could have made (after all he is a top 10 first round pick, someone who is supposed to make an impact on the club) might be the difference between an extra win or two, and that could be the difference between making the playoffs or having a homefield advantage or not.

That is a potentially giant impact, especially for a team coming off a weak year (drafted in the top 10) and who has been struggling for years now. The inability to sign him, which is directly related to the Jets tampering, may have seriously retarded our ability to make some offensive strides and improve our team.

Now it may not have, but that doesn't matter. It COULD have, so the penalty should be just a severe, even if we succeed in spite of it. You get the same punishment for unsuccessfully trying to rob a bank, or for getting much less money than you thought, as you do for successfully robbing a bank and getting away with huge sums.

The penalties (for the Jets) and compensation (for us) need to be based on the actions committed and their potential impact on all those involved (including the NFL as a whole had we caved and busted the slotting system), not made less because we were strong enough as a team (so far) to survive this illegal (by NFL rules) action.

Some think tampering case fueled Crabtree deal
Posted by Mike Florio on October 10, 2009 1:51 PM ET

As the storm of dust continues to settle regarding the decision of Michael Crabtree to show up unannounced in San Fran to work out a new deal, a source with knowledge of the situation believes that the wideout's holdout ended suddenly not because Crabtree was ready to play football but because of the pending tampering case that the 49ers have filed against the Jets.

The source firmly believes that the investigation was beginning to uncover evidence that the Jets had indeed tampered with Crabtree through his agent, Eugene Parker. Indeed, it was Parker and G.M. Mike Tannenbaum who once worked together on an offer sheet that the Patriots would not be able to match when the Jets lured running back Curtis Martin from New England to New York. Per the source, Parker and Tannenbaum continue to have a close and productive working relationship

Moreover, 49ers owner Jed York recently told KNBR in San Francisco (via ESPN.com) that "it was clear there was some evidence that the Jets talked to [Crabtree]," which in and of itself would be proof of tampering.

The thinking is that, as Tannenbaum (and possibly Deion Sanders) began to feel the heat increasing, Tannenbaum (and possibly Deion Sanders) urged Parker to get a deal done.

Though we've been told repeatedly that the 49ers still intend to press the matter (after all, the league made an example out of the Niners for talking to agent Drew Rosenhaus about a long-term contract for linebacker Lance Briggs at a time when the Bears were talking to the Niners about a trade for Briggs), the source predicts that the league office will now nudge the 49ers to let it go.

The argument, the source believes, will be that it's in the best interests of the league for the tampering allegation to go away, since a finding of such dirty deeds accomplished relatively inexpensively hurts the image of the entire league. The fact that this is all happening only a few weeks after the Jets were busted for cheating on the injury report makes an exoneration of the Jets this time around even more important.

So the real question is whether that effort to talk the 49ers into simply being happy that they got their player signed already has begun, and whether such efforts will be successful. In this regard, it's interesting that York already has used the phrase "there was evidence," since this implies that the case either is or will soon be formally closed.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello declined comment via e-mail on Saturday regarding whether the tampering case is still pending.

Regardless of the precise reason, the evidence suggests that the Crabtree deal was done very quickly, with less attention to detail. Last night, we pointed out several aspects of the contract indicating that it possibly was a rush job.

Even if the deal got done because Crabtree decided he was ready to play football, Parker surely would have urged Crabtree to give Parker enough time to ensure that the written document contains all the necessary bells and whistles. That fact that some deficiencies appear in the contract seems to bolster the belief that there was a separate motivation to get Crabtree under contract ASAFP, and that it possibly was related more to killing the tampering case than to getting Crabtree on a football field.

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A little disheartening if the kid didn't want to be here and was forced to sign via his agent's blunder. Time will tell I suppose....

On a side note, f**k the NFL is they push the Niners to drop tampering charges. This injustice needs to be dealt with, especially if there is overwhelming evidence that Parker was in bed with Tannenbaum about Crabtree.

This whole situation is starting to stink.

[ Edited by horsecore on Oct 10, 2009 at 11:08:57 ]

Go threw with it, Don't puss out Jed Fu#k the Jets

I guess we'll find out just how much of a sack jockey Goodell is for the Jets.

Originally posted by horsecore:
Some think tampering case fueled Crabtree deal

A little disheartening if the kid didn't want to be here and was forced to sign via his agent's blunder. Time will tell I suppose....

On a side note, f**k the NFL is they push the Niners to drop tampering charges. This injustice needs to be dealt with, especially if there is overwhelming evidence that Parker was in bed with Tannenbaum about Crabtree.

This whole situation is starting to stink.

I dont know about that.

Crabtree may have wanted to sign day one.

However, Parker (sanders as well) may have expressed to crabtree that he could do better and holdout.

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by horsecore:
Some think tampering case fueled Crabtree deal

A little disheartening if the kid didn't want to be here and was forced to sign via his agent's blunder. Time will tell I suppose....

On a side note, f**k the NFL is they push the Niners to drop tampering charges. This injustice needs to be dealt with, especially if there is overwhelming evidence that Parker was in bed with Tannenbaum about Crabtree.

This whole situation is starting to stink.

I dont know about that.

Crabtree may have wanted to sign day one.

However, Parker (sanders as well) may have expressed to crabtree that he could do better and holdout.

Yeah I suppose - I guess I just think the worst sometimes.

All in all, this whole situation turned out to be quite the fiasco. I sincerely hope the Jets are prosecuted for the alleged tampering.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
I guess we'll find out just how much of a sack jockey Goodell is for the Jets.

For a little perspective


I'd say OK Comissioner Goodell, we'll drop this tampering charge and be a good soldier if the NFL steps up with some substantial funding for our new Stadium . . . nothing less.

Otherwise, you'd better whack the Jets hard because anyone with a brain knows that what they did caused FAR more damage to the 49ers than what we did to the Bears.

It's time for hardball.

This just shows the bias of Goddell and the League has for East Coast teams. Did you go to the Bears and tell them to be happy because Briggs got signed? No!! We get hit with a pick swap and lose a 5th rounder. You want to make this thing just go away Goodell? No Chance!!! If you want it to go away give the 49ers the Jets first or second rounder and the 49ers withdraw the "Formal" tampering charges to help the NFL save face BUT to just drop it with no compensation, no F*%ckn' way!!! If there is evidence of tampering no way!!! The NFL cannot expect teams to shield the league from embarrassing situations for no compensation.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/10/10/jets-called-49ers-about-trading-for-crabtree/

Jets called 49ers about possibly trading for Crabtree