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Offensive post-game analysis (Week 1)

  • mayo49
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I don't know how he does it, but noodle arm got it done again.
  • trellblaze1
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Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by kstolai:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Raye is a joke. He is not an OC. He is a joke.






Pure and simple.

I think it's funny that people believe that any OC would have success with no blocking. Especially one who's plays are completely dependent on timing.

Ray may not indeed be a good OC, but that's not what was evident today. Anytime the opposing DLine is paying rent in your backfield your offense is going to look bad...

Did you notice how the pass protection improved on our TD drive? That's because we spread the field! The playcalling was responsible for a great part of the o-line struggle.

The oline was responsible for the bad oline play. Raye only calls the plays, he cannot get out there and execute it for them.

There a lot more involved than just execution. When you line up in the I, the guys are gonna stack the box and it will be harder to block.

yeah it is all raye fault if he fails to make adjustments! If the D is getting constant pressure( which they did), then your start calling plays to get hill on the move or get frank running outside, which Raye failed to do! Yeha we won, yeha I'm happy, but this wont fly!!!

If the Oline was any good an adjustment wouldn't have been necessary. Since when was Hill any good at throwing on the move? Since when was Gore a good outside runner? You have to consider who you have on the field when you make these kinds of decisions...
It was just a mix of bad playcalling and bad o-line play.
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by maximill15:
1. O line looked terrible! Dockett seemed to be on a jail break every other play
2. Frank Gore....2 yard a clip wont get it done with our offense going 60-40 run to pass!!! Not all his fault (see above)
3. D stepped up, got some pressure, made key plays when we were supposed to!(granted AZ dropped plenty of catchable balls)
4. jimmy ray....< Jim Holster
5 Crabtree is a f*g!

But Jimmy Raye did not lose the game...

Hostler also "won" the opener against the Cards in 2007.

thanks for killing my high (not weed high)
Originally posted by mayo63:
I don't know how he does it, but noodle arm got it done again.

Intestinal fortitude. That's how.
Bass and Rachal must get better. But remember this ari. dline tore it up in the playoffs and it looks like they are on the same page. this is a huge win next week will be a monumental win.
Well, it's pretty obvious we are NOT a "power" running team at this point.

Sing and Co. are telling everybody we plan to run 60% of the time, the other team plans it's defence that way, then we refuse to adjust except for the one 2nd half drive. D@mn if we didn't almost look like a WCO for one drive, and, IT WORKED!

Ah well, put one in the "W" column!
Horrible! But we won!!!!
  • trellblaze1
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I think people are also forgetting that this is the same lineup as last season. Our talent level doesn't exactly allow us to come out blazing.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by maximill15:
1. O line looked terrible! Dockett seemed to be on a jail break every other play
2. Frank Gore....2 yard a clip wont get it done with our offense going 60-40 run to pass!!! Not all his fault (see above)
3. D stepped up, got some pressure, made key plays when we were supposed to!(granted AZ dropped plenty of catchable balls)
4. jimmy ray....< Jim Holster
5 Crabtree is a f*g!

But Jimmy Raye did not lose the game...

Hostler also "won" the opener against the Cards in 2007.

thanks for killing my high (not weed high)

Yeah but you could just tell he by Hostler's playcalling he was overmatched. Raye adjusted to what the defense was doing. Gore wasn't as patient as he normally is either. There were multiple times he could have cut back for monster gains and failed to see it. He should have played more in the preseason,
  • diehard68
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Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by kstolai:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Raye is a joke. He is not an OC. He is a joke.






Pure and simple.

I think it's funny that people believe that any OC would have success with no blocking. Especially one who's plays are completely dependent on timing.

Ray may not indeed be a good OC, but that's not what was evident today. Anytime the opposing DLine is paying rent in your backfield your offense is going to look bad...

Did you notice how the pass protection improved on our TD drive? That's because we spread the field! The playcalling was responsible for a great part of the o-line struggle.

I think the Cards D had lost a little steam nearing the end of that drive.

Don't get me wrong...i don't care for the playcalling either but it's not the biggest of my worries.

Baas might as well have been grass today. Rachal wasn't far behind except for a few good plays...

I'm not concerned with the play calling on the big drive when they scored... they drove, kept their defense on the field, kept making first downs and scored. That's the kind of drive we gotta see. I'm more concerned about the playcalling on the last two possessions when it was absoultely critical to keep possession and maintain a drive.

THREE RUNS UP THE MIDDLE??!! FROM THE 3??!! How uninspired is that? I hate it when you work so hard to get a lead and then become ridiculously conservative when yo try to keep it. And then with 3 mins left we needed to keep the ball in our possession... one first down is all we needed. and what, THREE RUNS UP THE MIDDLE AGAIN!!?? We damn near gave them a chance to take the game away from us.

We need to learn to get aggressive when we have a lead and go for the juggular. Don't give teams a chance to get back into it.
He was very predictable, had he mixed it up with passing plays that involved screens, slants, dump-offs, he would have kept the cards defense on their toes.

I do not blame the oline as much as i blame raye and his play calling. Oline can't block 9 guys, especially when they blitz up the middle.
OL stank it up, giving Gore no place to go but down. Receivers didn't get enough separation and when they did Hill didn't find them. Running game? BUT WE WON!!! I spent $50 at the bar watching the game and it was worth every penny!!!

GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Method:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I'm So F'n Happy we pulled this out....but we were playing not to lose the whole game....until we needed to play to win...and that is a tough position to put your QB in after asking him to hand off over and over and over...and occasional pass..

All I know is that if Raye calls more than one run run run, 3 and out plays... Candlestick will boo him out the stadium next week......we cannot be this predictable....

we were like this early in Alex's carrier...it doesn't help anyone.

More like through his entire career. Where do you think we started the "FREE ALEX" thing?


FREE SHAUN!!!!

No don't
Hill is like a ticking time bomb
the longer hes in there the bigger the blow up
He already got lucky on a few passes dropped by the defense and he is already showing happy feet
run the rock!
FACT: Shaun Hill did not throw a single interception in this game, nor did he make a crappy throw that came even close to an INT, things looked horrible, but as usual they came together, and Shaun is the only starting QB in the NFC West this week that hasn't thrown an interception.
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