There are 215 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

Crabtree Discussion Thread

Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Its funny seeing all these quotes of quotes of quotes of people wasting 30 mins to type out a post about Crabtree that will be buried by 10 pages in a half an hour. Its kinda pointless to speculate, analyze, and argue over this crap that we have no idea about. This situation will be handled behind closed doors

its also funny that this post you made about posts being buried will be buried by 10 pages in half an hour

hahaha I am aware of the irony....and damn have I posted 24 times here.......no way. They are usually posts about me crying. Easy there fellas....I'm just poking a little fun at this thread
Originally posted by CRH49:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Its funny seeing all these quotes of quotes of quotes of people wasting 30 mins to type out a post about Crabtree that will be buried by 10 pages in a half an hour. Its kinda pointless to speculate, analyze, and argue over this crap that we have no idea about. This situation will be handled behind closed doors

its also funny that this post you made about posts being buried will be buried by 10 pages in half an hour

Yeah!

This!
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
This thread should be renamed Crabtree Post Whore Thread

User posts within this thread
User Posts
dirtysouthniner 157
BigMar 134
MadDog49er 128
KRS-1 124
WillistheWall 101
valrod33 95
ads_2006 94
PatrickJira411 84
tohara3 70
King49er 64
PTulini 62
HessianDud 56
SonocoNinerFan 56

Still the biggest Crabtree Whore!!!

FYI
Crabtree will be signed and be one of the most beloved Niners ever!!!

damn straight
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by CRH49:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Its funny seeing all these quotes of quotes of quotes of people wasting 30 mins to type out a post about Crabtree that will be buried by 10 pages in a half an hour. Its kinda pointless to speculate, analyze, and argue over this crap that we have no idea about. This situation will be handled behind closed doors

its also funny that this post you made about posts being buried will be buried by 10 pages in half an hour

Yeah!

This!

When in the Course of Michael Crabtree events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
Anyone getting tired of Adam Schefter and his know it all attitude?
Originally posted by Youngone:
Anyone getting tired of Adam Schefter and his know it all attitude?

i freakin hate that guy
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
This thread should be renamed Crabtree Post Whore Thread

User posts within this thread
User Posts
dirtysouthniner 157
BigMar 134
MadDog49er 128
KRS-1 124
WillistheWall 101
valrod33 95
ads_2006 94
PatrickJira411 84
tohara3 70
King49er 64
PTulini 62
HessianDud 56
SonocoNinerFan 56

Still the biggest Crabtree Whore!!!

FYI
Crabtree will be signed and be one of the most beloved Niners ever!!!

damn straight

Due's gonna be a BUST! Inflated stats against third rate teams in college, slow and not physical enough. JJ again!!
Originally posted by Youngone:
Anyone getting tired of Adam Schefter and his know it all attitude?

What is Schefter's latest "news"?
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Anyone getting tired of Adam Schefter and his know it all attitude?

i freakin hate that guy

They talked about it for just a second on NFL Live and that guy just states the obvious. ESPN will not discuss this topic in depth on NFL Live....instead they talk about Michael Vick being elevated to 3rd QB or Favre going to the bathroom. But the media certainly is turning on Crabtree this week. I haven't heard one good thing about the holdout save Deion's stupid remarks
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by PTulini:
I don't know what's going to happen at this point? Can someone please answer me this question...

Why do so many people think Michael Crabtree will have the oppertunity to re-enter the 2010 NFL Draft? If anything, he doesn't sign, and the 49ers will trade him in an effort to get some value for him. Also, Does Crabtree have the option to reject the trade? He shouldn't get to choose where he goes. I just don't get it!


if he is traded, he isn't required to sign with that team, there is no contract being traded, and only his rights...

so if his rights are traded to a team, he still has the option to re-enter the draft, because he is not contractually obligated to that team, so now that team is out of whatever they traded to the 49er's to get his rights..


no team will trade for him unless they know they already have contract agreements with him...

Surely no team can make contact with him, let alone have a contract agreement?-

It would be a Sign & Trade, basically the other team agrees in principle to a contract with Crabs, we sign him to that contract and trade him to the team for what they are offering.

No team would trade simply for the "rights" to him unless there was tampering involved. They would require a contract to be in place, and Im sure there is some enforceable agreement to ensure the trade actually takes place once the contract is signed.


I think it would go down like this:

1. Team X calls McCloughan and makes an acceptable trade offer.
2. The Niners give Team X permission to work-out contract terms with Crabtree.
3. The trade is completed.

I think the prime candidates for trade partners would be bottom of the 1st round teams looking for a playmaking WR but won't be within reach of the top 2010 prospects, assuming they're not scared off by Crabtree's act.

This is where it is at.... if Craptree does not sign prior to this weekend Hawks game, then enough is enough, put all Craptree contract talks on freeze untill after this season and then TRADE his silly, selfish butt out of here in 2010!
Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
This thread should be renamed Crabtree Post Whore Thread

User posts within this thread
User Posts
dirtysouthniner 157
BigMar 134
MadDog49er 128
KRS-1 124
WillistheWall 101
valrod33 95
ads_2006 94
PatrickJira411 84
tohara3 70
King49er 64
PTulini 62
HessianDud 56
SonocoNinerFan 56

Still the biggest Crabtree Whore!!!

FYI
Crabtree will be signed and be one of the most beloved Niners ever!!!

damn straight

Due's gonna be a BUST! Inflated stats against third rate teams in college, slow and not physical enough. JJ again!!

thats every player coming out of college
Originally posted by Youngone:
Anyone getting tired of Adam Schefter and his know it all attitude?

Hate Schefter for reporting the facts? Ugh, no.
Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
This thread should be renamed Crabtree Post Whore Thread

User posts within this thread
User Posts
dirtysouthniner 157
BigMar 134
MadDog49er 128
KRS-1 124
WillistheWall 101
valrod33 95
ads_2006 94
PatrickJira411 84
tohara3 70
King49er 64
PTulini 62
HessianDud 56
SonocoNinerFan 56

Still the biggest Crabtree Whore!!!

FYI
Crabtree will be signed and be one of the most beloved Niners ever!!!

damn straight

Due's gonna be a BUST! Inflated stats against third rate teams in college, slow and not physical enough. JJ again!!


You're right! Due Sucks. But Craptree is going to rule in the NFL.
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Youngone:
This thread should be renamed Crabtree Post Whore Thread

User posts within this thread
User Posts
dirtysouthniner 157
BigMar 134
MadDog49er 128
KRS-1 124
WillistheWall 101
valrod33 95
ads_2006 94
PatrickJira411 84
tohara3 70
King49er 64
PTulini 62
HessianDud 56
SonocoNinerFan 56

Still the biggest Crabtree Whore!!!

FYI
Crabtree will be signed and be one of the most beloved Niners ever!!!

damn straight

Due's gonna be a BUST! Inflated stats against third rate teams in college, slow and not physical enough. JJ again!!


You're right! Due Sucks. But Craptree is going to rule in the NFL.

I was at the draft party and EVERYONE was going crazy when they picked Crabtree. Everyone except me of course. I knew it all along. I wanted Oher!

So anyone else saying that he did not want Crabtree to begin with can suck it!!!



Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by CRH49:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Its funny seeing all these quotes of quotes of quotes of people wasting 30 mins to type out a post about Crabtree that will be buried by 10 pages in a half an hour. Its kinda pointless to speculate, analyze, and argue over this crap that we have no idea about. This situation will be handled behind closed doors

its also funny that this post you made about posts being buried will be buried by 10 pages in half an hour

Yeah!

This!

When in the Course of Michael Crabtree events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

Wow, the Constitution of the United Crabtree Camp?