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why is this in the parking lot. take this nonsense to Niner Talk where it belongs.

[ Edited by Rikimaru03 on Jul 28, 2009 at 09:52:20 ]
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

You really need to chill out. You got a lot of balls coming here and and ranting to us zoners and ripping in to us like that.

I appreciate your comment, but don't you think declaring rumors to be true when you really don't know that they are is counterproductive? Do you really believe that it is good for the team to spread unsubstantiated rumors?

Shhhhhhhh
Who are you talking to, man?

Good question. I am addressing this thread to those who have nothing better to do than to spread rumors, especially rumors that can only hurt our team.

If you're not one of them then this thread is not addressed to you (same goes true for everyone else).
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

You really need to chill out. You got a lot of balls coming here and and ranting to us zoners and ripping in to us like that.

I appreciate your comment, but don't you think declaring rumors to be true when you really don't know that they are is counterproductive? Do you really believe that it is good for the team to spread unsubstantiated rumors?

You are making it sound like we are all guilty of this. While I can't speak for all the zoners, this zoner does't pay much attention to rumors.
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

You really need to chill out. You got a lot of balls coming here and and ranting to us zoners and ripping in to us like that.

I appreciate your comment, but don't you think declaring rumors to be true when you really don't know that they are is counterproductive? Do you really believe that it is good for the team to spread unsubstantiated rumors?

Shhhhhhhh
Who are you talking to, man?

Good question. I am addressing this thread to those who have nothing better to do than to spread rumors, especially rumors that can only hurt our team.

If you're not one of them then this thread is not addressed to you (same goes true for everyone else).

It makes you sound like one of those crazy hobos on the street screaming about the government putting chips in our brains.
Originally posted by Rikimaru03:
why is this in the parking lot. take this nonsense to Niner Talk where it belongs.

I thought I had posted this in Niner Talk. If not, then my mistake.
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Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

Actually, it is NOT the Denver Post Reporter's opinion. If you read the article, he is reporting that a "league source" told him that Crabtree was holding up the signings of the top-10.

And, Crabtree can be sabotaged by the agent. Yes, the agent works for the player but Crabtree is a 20-something year old kid, this is his first big contract negotiation, he does not have a lot of experience in these types of negotiations and neither does his family, Eugene Parker has been a very successful agent, etc. Who do you think Crabtree is going to listen to? At this point, if Parker tells him to wait, he's going to wait. And, Parker wants to get him the best deal possible so he can market that success to other future clients.
Originally posted by kem99:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

Actually, it is NOT the Denver Post Reporter's opinion. If you read the article, he is reporting that a "league source" told him that Crabtree was holding up the signings of the top-10.

And, Crabtree can be sabotaged by the agent. Yes, the agent works for the player but Crabtree is a 20-something year old kid, this is his first big contract negotiation, he does not have a lot of experience in these types of negotiations and neither does his family, Eugene Parker has been a very successful agent, etc. Who do you think Crabtree is going to listen to? At this point, if Parker tells him to wait, he's going to wait. And, Parker wants to get him the best deal possible so he can market that success to other future clients.

Hey! Take it to Niner Talk!
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My eyes are beginning to bleed. Is that bad?
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Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

You really need to chill out. You got a lot of balls coming here and and ranting to us zoners and ripping in to us like that.

I appreciate your comment, but don't you think declaring rumors to be true when you really don't know that they are is counterproductive? Do you really believe that it is good for the team to spread unsubstantiated rumors?

Shhhhhhhh
Who are you talking to, man?

Good question. I am addressing this thread to those who have nothing better to do than to spread rumors, especially rumors that can only hurt our team.

If you're not one of them then this thread is not addressed to you (same goes true for everyone else).

hurting the team???? because they come on here and read Niner Talk?
Originally posted by AmpLee:
My eyes are beginning to bleed. Is that bad?

Yes. That's a side effect of reading unsubstantiated rumors.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
My eyes are beginning to bleed. Is that bad?

yes... does this call for a free thread?
Originally posted by kem99:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

Actually, it is NOT the Denver Post Reporter's opinion. If you read the article, he is reporting that a "league source" told him that Crabtree was holding up the signings of the top-10.

And, Crabtree can be sabotaged by the agent. Yes, the agent works for the player but Crabtree is a 20-something year old kid, this is his first big contract negotiation, he does not have a lot of experience in these types of negotiations and neither does his family, Eugene Parker has been a very successful agent, etc. Who do you think Crabtree is going to listen to? At this point, if Parker tells him to wait, he's going to wait. And, Parker wants to get him the best deal possible so he can market that success to other future clients.

whoa whoa whoa!!! no no no!!! take this to Niner Talk!!! this is free thread now! you two go bye bye!




(quick! someone post boobies to distract them!!)
Originally posted by CRH49:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

You really need to chill out. You got a lot of balls coming here and and ranting to us zoners and ripping in to us like that.

I appreciate your comment, but don't you think declaring rumors to be true when you really don't know that they are is counterproductive? Do you really believe that it is good for the team to spread unsubstantiated rumors?

Shhhhhhhh
Who are you talking to, man?

Good question. I am addressing this thread to those who have nothing better to do than to spread rumors, especially rumors that can only hurt our team.

If you're not one of them then this thread is not addressed to you (same goes true for everyone else).

hurting the team???? because they come on here and read Niner Talk?

Yes, they come here and read these rumors, and their feelings get hurt. Sure, they'd know what the truth actually is, and whether the rumors are true, but all that gets throw out the window, man! This is about feelings! I wouldn't expect you to understand, robot!
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Originally posted by Rikimaru03:
Originally posted by kem99:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
I am sick and tired of how WZ members seem to fly with the latest juicy rumors, without any substantiation and when the sources of the rumors have vested interests in creating sensationalist headlines.

According to the Denver Post, Michael Crabtree is the sole reason why 7/8 of the first round picks have not signed their contracts! According to the DP, everyone is waiting to see what happens with Crabtree.

But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!

Frankly, this latest allegation makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply a DP reporter's opinion, and it is being copied and reprinted like it is gospel! Yet it is ridiculous to presume that a rumor that any one player might holdout would result in all players refusing to sign contracts. Football is a business and these players will hurt themselves more than they hurt their teams if they do not sign.

Furthermore, both MM and MB - whom many of you seem to think of as gods when it comes to 49er news - have printed unsubstantiated rumors concerning Crabtree's intent to holdout.

Why don't you all allow Mike Singletary and the 49ers to put the best team together WITHOUT THE ONGOING DISTRACTIONS PROVIDED BY SO-CALLED FANS WHO JUMP ON THE RUMOR BANDWAGON??

These rumors only serve to take the focus of attention away from the players' and coaches' efforts to make us the best possible team in 2009. Real fans will not participate in this rumor-mongering. Real fans want the team to do well.

Please refrain from supporting these rumors. Do not leave comments that stoke the fire of these rumors. Let them die out, like a flame without any oxygen. That is how you can actively support your team.

If Crabtree wants to play then he will sign his contract. If he doesn't want to sign his contract then he will not get to play football. His agent's reputation is secondary. No matter what you may think, agents DO NOT determine the players' careers; they only negotiate contracts.

Additionally, an agent MUST tell the player he represents about any bona fide offers made by the team. So Crabtree will have an opportunity to agree to terms every step of the way; he cannot be sabotaged by a greedy agent.

So let's support our team by not feeding the rumor frenzy.

Actually, it is NOT the Denver Post Reporter's opinion. If you read the article, he is reporting that a "league source" told him that Crabtree was holding up the signings of the top-10.

And, Crabtree can be sabotaged by the agent. Yes, the agent works for the player but Crabtree is a 20-something year old kid, this is his first big contract negotiation, he does not have a lot of experience in these types of negotiations and neither does his family, Eugene Parker has been a very successful agent, etc. Who do you think Crabtree is going to listen to? At this point, if Parker tells him to wait, he's going to wait. And, Parker wants to get him the best deal possible so he can market that success to other future clients.

whoa whoa whoa!!! no no no!!! take this to Niner Talk!!! this is free thread now! you two go bye bye!




(quick! someone post boobies to distract them!!)
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