Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by baltien:
While I would love nothing more to see Alex succeed on this team, I do not think it would be wise for him to start. The chief reason being, Hill showed us last year that he deserves the starting role.
And until he shows us that he can't handle it (by his play), it should remain his job.
Also, imagine if Smith starts and then tanks. It would be detrimental to the morale of our team, and all but erase the (little) progress that we made last year.
Alex is young, and can only benefit by sitting awhile longer and learning.
But then the argument could be 5 OC's in 5 years and we could yet again be looking at another QB competition.
I like Alex Smith, I really do....
But what's the difference with him learning new offense every year and with S. Hill learning the same thing and succeding??? Given, he (Smith) was hurt last year but it seems like Hill was able to adapt to the changes and play whereas Smith was stuck! Again, I do hope that Smith proves me wong but for the time being, I think the QB is for Hill to lose.
I'm going to have to favor Alex Smith in this reply. The difference in Alex not learning new systems as well as Shaun Hill are fundamentals. Shaun Hill knows what he is as a QB and he has his signature type of play set where he only needs to make minor tweaks to his style in order to fit a new system. Hill also understands exactly what he can or can't do and new coaches, after seeing him, understand exactly what he can or can't do and call the plays accordingly.
Alex Smith has no signature set style (he's mobile but doesn't scramble well) or basic proper fundamentals. When a new coach comes in, everyone SAYS Alex can make all of the throws but he has been inconsistent with ALL of the throws even though he has the arm strength to get the ball to the location. This is where a coach has more difficultly forming an offense to cater to his "strengths" and Alex is also thinking he needs to start from scratch when a new coach tweaks his footwork as Alex really never set into his own comfort and work from those.
Alex is like a college student in his first two years trying to figure out his niche whereas Shaun is like a guy who's returning to college after 5 years off where he knows his style and what types of majors he falls into and his mental maturity of handling them for Shaun's perspective. Alex has NO perspective.
As for Maddog's initial post: Alex Smith has not shown an ounce more than a game manager and games where he has high volume throwing are not very good games because he has not shown to be an accurate passer, especially, the deepball being his "strength". If we were to have a machine-like 80's offense, it Shaun Hill would have a higher probability with operating that type of offense. Right now, the ONLY type of offense Alex Smith would have a slightly higher chance over Hill would be a run-run 12-20 yard pass offense as Smith needs a little more time to make the read and a less complicated progression system. All of this assuming their play from the past. Who knows, it may all have clicked for Alex and he does it all.
However, the worst case high risk/high reward scenario would be to have Alex Smith start. Now, with a 13 ranked defense from last year only getting better, you don't want to eff that up with a high risk as we have done with JTO the highest risk highest reward scenario that failed last year.
Therefore, unless one player shines immensely brighter than the other, the decision on who starts sits with which one of the two can lead a team and be an extension of the offensive coordinator/head coach on the field, especially with an "up and coming defense".
[ Edited by Joecool on Jun 26, 2009 at 11:53:52 ]