Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
okay, kolo, you see a bright light when you see soap, and i see a guy who is strong, athletic, but somehow just doesn't seem to grasp the "it" in being a NT or DE, or whatever his status will be this yr. 5yrs? And this is what we got? Yes, i admit to being spoiled, watching all the glory yrs games and getting to go to joe robbie against cincy, and against marino at stanford. But even without that, if a guy is starting, i just flat out expect more out of him than we get from soap(look, as i said, he has lots of company, so this isn't a witch hunt). You review tapes and see a guy you obviously like. i review them and see a guy who is going thru the motions, but in the end, not getting it done.
First off this is Sopoaga's first full year starting, and as I've showed on paper Sopoaga is comparable to a Igor Olshansky, Ty Warren, Luis Castillo, Chris Canty. Amazing how you people judge a player when hes practically been in rotation before last year.
You keep bringing up the "IT" factor and say you watch tape on him. Well "IT" factors don't tell the whole story of a player good or bad.
Wanna know the criticism I have of Sopoaga (off the top of my head), here goes:
1. Gets stood up by O-lineman, forgets to use proper leverage whether its the run or the pass.
2. Doesn't use his hands well and gets locked up in blocks at times.
3. Wears down if in the game too long.
If you have the Jets game, New England game and Washington game, you would see where hes a top of his game, combined power with technique, good example of his potential.
Rather than dispute each and every point i made that you challenged, i will leave it here. We simply see the same tape and end up "seeing" different things. The only thing i will counter with is, if soap is as good as you say, how come we STILL have no passrush? Maybe you see him out there as the only guy playing at a superior level, but if so, one of the two of us needs glasses. IF he were playing so superbly, i would expect our passrush and PassD to be just splendid, which it obviously isn't. I don't have a "mad on" for soap---he seems like a nice young man. But anchoring our line at DE or NT, or DL(where i think he really belongs), no way. Our passrush speaks for itself...just not very loudly. Okay, it's a whisper.
I've never once said or implied that Sopoaga is playing at a superior level. My whole point of all these Sopoaga debates or arguments are that hes done a solid job of starting his first FULL year, and noted that he more than earned his first year of his new contract.
But as for our pass-rush, I could've sworn Parys Haralson emerged as ONE of our pass-rushers. Simply put, We really don't have anyone at the WILL or a straight up pass-rusher for that matter that can keep a consistent pass rush. Look around the league at all the teams running a 3-4, they for one have a better LB unit and have never switched back and fourth from a Big Sub or the 4-2-5, when in that formation has ABSOLUTELY ZERO pass-rush in.
As i said, this wasn't only about soap. It is more about the guys who make up the futility we have to watch game after game, yr in and yr out. Cripes we have one of the best LBs to come along in a decade, and even with p-52 we can't stop the pass, because we have no passD, and that is due to NO passrush. If soap isn't part of that problem, then you are right...i am all wet. But i submit it has been yrs since a passrush, a real one, and soap, like it or not, is a part of that.
I think you seem to fail on what a 3-4 DL's main priority is. You lead me to believe that the reason's why we lack in stopping the pass is due to our front 3?? So Mark Roman has nothing to add, Nate Clements gambling on a pass has nothing to add, Mike Nolan's Big Nickel has nothing to add, no dominate pass-rusher has nothing to add, our NT's failing to collapse the pocket so the QB won't step up and avoid pass-rushers from the left or right side have nothing to add.
Wanna lay blame on our front 3 D-lineman, here goes.....DAMN them for ranking 13th against the run. How dare they fail to close off running lanes for the opposing RB's, we should be ranked in the top 5 against the run....damn them. I hate when 3 D-lineman can't get to the QB against 5 O-lineman.....you guys gotta be kidding me right??
Again, i reiterate: nobody would love to see soap have an all pro yr more than I. Realistically, that seems to be a forlorn hope. So it is either coaching, which has been so far below par it is embarrassing, or it is in talent evaluation and selection, which has given us 9 starters on D, which all are excellent backups. Starters...and i include soap in this group....nah.
That has GOT to be one of thee most BS lines I've ever seen in your rants. Tell me why type all that just to say that at the end, makes no sense at all, wanna know why, cause you'll deny every reason why he made it there.
But yes, a big part of it WAS coaching, notice the difference from Nolan to Singletary.
Another clue....first half = Big Sub, second half = One-gapping in a 3-4.