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Marc Trestman New Bears HC

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Bears got a hell of a head coach, his ability to develop and extract the best out of QB's is prolific, I think we might just see a more stable Jay Cutler this year, a much more dangerous Jay Cutler with Trestman structuring the offense to support him the same way Harbaugh did with Alex. I was hoping the 49ers could have hired Trestman as offensive coordinator but I'm happy to see he's on to bigger and better things.

Are you serious? Plummer had his worst seasons under Trestman. Gannon was coming off three straight Pro Bowl appearances when he showed up in Oakland. And when Gannon went down? Tuiasosopo and Mirer were legendarily horrible.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Are you serious? Plummer had his worst seasons under Trestman. Gannon was coming off three straight Pro Bowl appearances when he showed up in Oakland. And when Gannon went down? Tuiasosopo and Mirer were legendarily horrible.

That was a great bit of fiction that you presented.....I find reality works best though.




Mitchell had only one year under Trestman, ended up throwing for 4300 yards, 32 touchdowns and 12 interceptions with a QB rating of 92. The rest of his career, his QB rating hovered around 75.


Plummer led the Arizona Cardinals to the playoffs in an improbable run in 1998, threw for almost 4000 yards, afterwards the Cardinals lost Larry Centers and the entire team more or less fell off the cliff due to injuries..etc.

Rich Gannon had 3 years under Trestman and 2 of them were the 2 best years of his entire career, including winning the NFL MVP in 2002.
Originally posted by fastforward:
But he has been with the league for a long time. One cannot forget all in a few years.

As I remember one big issue with Trestman back during his 49ers days was his communication skills, not his brain. He didn't communicate well according to the reports.

That was one of the issues, but that's something that Jerry Rice specifically commented on in 2002, saying he was far more laid back, more easy going, cracking jokes, he was a lot easier to relate to. He's kind of had an egghead reputation for awhile but if you listen to comments from guys like Rice and Rich Gannon, as well as his players on Montreal, he's a pretty effective communicator, at least at this point in his career.
Originally posted by ninersoul:
Not if he's been coaching in the Canadian leagues for the past couple years.

The NFL is a different animal.

Football is football. Its not like the guy has no NFL background, he's got a long background in a variety of systems, has dealt with a vast variety of different players, basically being in the CFL gave him the executive managerial experience that he was previously lacking.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
The STUPIDEST play that still makes me scream.

Siefert was NOT a great coach. IMO, he was better than average HC - he inherited a team from Bill and wona aSBowl.

Actually two...but who's counting, right?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Football is football. Its not like the guy has no NFL background, he's got a long background in a variety of systems, has dealt with a vast variety of different players, basically being in the CFL gave him the executive managerial experience that he was previously lacking.


Football is NOT football.

High school football is NOT college football and college football sure isn't pro football. Canadian football isn't Arena football either. Each brand of football all share some similarities but each is a different competitive and dynamic product.

And on top of that NFL football is somewhat a different game when Trestman left. Being in Canada for the past couple years won't benefit Trestman in gameplanning in NFL football that has changed in some ways since he was last competing in it.
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Originally posted by ninersoul:
Football is NOT football.

High school football is NOT college football and college football sure isn't pro football. Canadian football isn't Arena football either. Each brand of football all share some similarities but each is a different competitive and dynamic product.

And on top of that NFL football is somewhat a different game when Trestman left. Being in Canada for the past couple years won't benefit Trestman in gameplanning in NFL football that has changed in some ways since he was last competing in it.

And yet Jim Harbaugh went 13-3 his first year as an NFL head coach after being a college coach for 7 years.
Originally posted by Jcool:
And yet Jim Harbaugh went 13-3 his first year as an NFL head coach after being a college coach for 7 years.


So u are saying that to say what?

I hope u aren't using that as an example of the collegiate and pro leagues are the same game. There are numerous college coaches that couldn't succeed in the NFL cuz they were better suited for college.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Are you serious? Plummer had his worst seasons under Trestman. Gannon was coming off three straight Pro Bowl appearances when he showed up in Oakland. And when Gannon went down? Tuiasosopo and Mirer were legendarily horrible.

That was a great bit of fiction that you presented.....I find reality works best though.




Mitchell had only one year under Trestman, ended up throwing for 4300 yards, 32 touchdowns and 12 interceptions with a QB rating of 92. The rest of his career, his QB rating hovered around 75.


Plummer led the Arizona Cardinals to the playoffs in an improbable run in 1998, threw for almost 4000 yards, afterwards the Cardinals lost Larry Centers and the entire team more or less fell off the cliff due to injuries..etc.

Rich Gannon had 3 years under Trestman and 2 of them were the 2 best years of his entire career, including winning the NFL MVP in 2002.

Trestman has coached 20 years in the NFL and you're able to pick a handful of instances of success, many of which can attributed to other coaches.

Plummer threw for 3,737 and they couldn't even make the playoffs.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Trestman has coached 20 years in the NFL and you're able to pick a handful of instances of success, many of which can attributed to other coaches.

Plummer threw for 3,737 and they couldn't even make the playoffs.

LOL....do you just make up stuff as you go along???


1998 Wildcard Round Cardinals 20 Cowboys 7

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
LOL....do you just make up stuff as you go along???


1998 Wildcard Round Cardinals 20 Cowboys 7

This. I CLEARLY remember that game. I still think about what could've been if we drafted Jake Plummer instead of Jim Druckenmiller.
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Originally posted by ninersoul:
Originally posted by Jcool:
And yet Jim Harbaugh went 13-3 his first year as an NFL head coach after being a college coach for 7 years.


So u are saying that to say what?

I hope u aren't using that as an example of the collegiate and pro leagues are the same game. There are numerous college coaches that couldn't succeed in the NFL cuz they were better suited for college.

The reason Marc Testman could fail wont be because he has been out of the NFL for years. Good coaches are good coaches. The reason most college coaches fail is because they don't put in the work (Steve Spurrier) or give up easy (Bobby Petrino & Nick Saban). It has nothing to do with it being a different game.
Originally posted by Jcool:
The reason Marc Testman could fail wont be because he has been out of the NFL for years. Good coaches are good coaches. The reason most college coaches fail is because they don't put in the work (Steve Spurrier) or give up easy (Bobby Petrino & Nick Saban). It has nothing to do with it being a different game.


And how exactly you would know how much work those failed coaches put in?
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Originally posted by ninersoul:
Originally posted by Jcool:
The reason Marc Testman could fail wont be because he has been out of the NFL for years. Good coaches are good coaches. The reason most college coaches fail is because they don't put in the work (Steve Spurrier) or give up easy (Bobby Petrino & Nick Saban). It has nothing to do with it being a different game.


And how exactly you would know how much work those failed coaches put in?

I only said Spurrier's problem was effort.

"Spurrier definitely has a reputation for being laid-back and relaxed and not having a whole bunch of rules," Hasselbeck said. "You'd have guys with their cell phones going off in the meetings, and there wouldn't be any consequences. That kind of thing permeates the whole culture being created in a bunch of different areas.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8735835/college-football-unhealthy-culture-contributed-steve-spurrier-failure-nfl

Spurrier stated on the Dan Patrick Radio Show, "Some people really love grinding, watching tape. Some people love football year round. I am not one of those guys. I like grinding from August to the end of that bowl game the other day. Now, it's golf season and travel around, hit the beach a little bit, go up to the Preakness. There are other things in life besides grinding football."

http://coachingsearch.com/bio/2161-steve-spurrier-not-up-for-grinding-says-its-golf-season.html#sthash.Kdw6ge3k.dpuf