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*** WEEK 3 NFL GAMEDAY THREAD 9/20 - 9/24 ***

Originally posted by schmons:
i will defend this as a touchdown, straight to the bank with it.

go on..............
The NFL released a statement Tuesday confirming that the result of Monday night's controversial Seahawks vs. Packers game will stand.

The statement concedes that Golden Tate should have been called for offensive pass interference, but does not dispute the (erroneous) simultaneous possession ruling. "Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. ... In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. ... Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review. The result of the game is final."
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
The NFL released a statement Tuesday confirming that the result of Monday night's controversial Seahawks vs. Packers game will stand.

The statement concedes that Golden Tate should have been called for offensive pass interference, but does not dispute the (erroneous) simultaneous possession ruling. "Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. ... In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. ... Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review. The result of the game is final."



basically the NFL is throwing wayne elliott under the bus.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
The NFL released a statement Tuesday confirming that the result of Monday night's controversial Seahawks vs. Packers game will stand.

The statement concedes that Golden Tate should have been called for offensive pass interference, but does not dispute the (erroneous) simultaneous possession ruling. "Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. ... In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. ... Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review. The result of the game is final."

But of course... Herm Edwards said it best -- even 3 drunk guys saw it right.
even the procedures the referees took.


normally what you'd see in this instance would be the head referee come in cleaning up the mess, calling a conference between the two referees who had different calls. and he'd make a decision based on what they saw.


what happened here was, two referees watching the flight of the ball (only way i can explain them missing that Off-PI), them allowing a scrum to break out, them allowing all kinds of extra players to enter the mix, allowing the camera man to stick his nose in the huddle, no conference, put the game in the replay officials hand.... allowed GB to walk off the field.
does the nfl still has the leveraqge? I think not!.!.
another thing i noticed during last nights game. on the play where aaron rodgers was scrambling for a first down and was ruled short, had a measurement and everything then it went to replay before it was overturned. Why did they not measure the spot of the ball again after overturning the call? They gave the packers a first down based on the video and that was that. ive never seen it happen like that before.
I knew the NFL would never admit to a mistake. That was a clear interception. Even Larry Fitzgerald said that it was NOT a catch. I hope something this tragic never happens to the 49ers.
the longer this goes on, the ref's pay tag will go up as well-as well as it should. The NFL should've ened this during the offseason. Now, this is going to cost the NFL more money now.
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
does the nfl still has the leveraqge? I think not!.!.

Yes, we keep tuning in every Thursday, Sunday and Monday
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Some thoughts....
1) Clearly an interception and anyone thinking that this was a simultaneous catch is nuts. Pictures don't lie
2) The ref who called the TD clearly did not have the best look. The back judge who really had the only good look called it an interception.

3) and most important... the real failure was by the NFL replay officials who could have easily overturned the call and done the right thing. Anyone could see
that the official making the TD call was out of position and that the proper call was an interception. Still can't believe this call was not overturned.

Possession isn't reveiwable believe it or not on a scoring play. Idiotic, but true.
Not true

Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

Yeah, I edited it. Cowherd was saying the opposite this morning.
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Some thoughts....
1) Clearly an interception and anyone thinking that this was a simultaneous catch is nuts. Pictures don't lie
2) The ref who called the TD clearly did not have the best look. The back judge who really had the only good look called it an interception.

3) and most important... the real failure was by the NFL replay officials who could have easily overturned the call and done the right thing. Anyone could see
that the official making the TD call was out of position and that the proper call was an interception. Still can't believe this call was not overturned.

Possession isn't reveiwable believe it or not on a scoring play. Idiotic, but true.
Not true

Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

Yeah, I edited it. Cowherd was saying the opposite this morning.

Never believe anything Cowherd says.
Originally posted by Loco49er:
I knew the NFL would never admit to a mistake. That was a clear interception. Even Larry Fitzgerald said that it was NOT a catch. I hope something this tragic never happens to the 49ers.

What do you mean 'even' Larry Fitzgerald lol. If you're gonna use the word 'even', it should be if like a Seahawks player or someone from the Lions/Bears/Vikings said that. Of course Fitzgerald's gonna say it was not a catch, he's in the same division as the Seahawks. Now of course he's correct, but even hypothetically if it were a catch, he'd say the same thing haha
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
does the nfl still has the leveraqge? I think not!.!.

Yes, we keep tuning in every Thursday, Sunday and Monday

LOL. That is a true statement. As long as the attendance is great, the ratings are high, and the owners are making tons of money then the NFL still has the leverage. The NFL officials want pensions for working 1 day per week for less than 1/2 the year. I'm not sure the owners will give on that point.
This needs repeating:

From a purely football standpoint this was a horribly officiated game, worst thus far perhaps. I hope this is it for the replacement refs. This was bad, really bad. I respect the game 1st, and a fan 2nd. As a student of the game I have to say that the wrong team won tonight and it was ushered in by the refs. This is on the NFL owners (let us not forget the refs were locked out). They bullied the players and now they'er trying to bully the refs. The owners need to be protested, burned in effigy, bashed - publicly - and shown no mercy by "We the people". This is an example of why greedy blue-blooded Robber Baron plutocrats (who, BTW, have no real connection to the game itself) should never EVER have total control of anything!!!!, least of all nothing as big as the NFL. Sooner or later they'll run it into the ground for the sake of money. Here we stand with the greatest product known to man - the NFL - and the owners themselves are hurting "the shield" most, so they can keep an extra buck. This should be a lesson to all Americans of what will happen if autocrats like the NFL owners are given total control. What happened tonight is but a microcosm of whats going on in this nation as a whole.
I understand that this is a business. The problem I have is that these a**hole blue-blooded plutocrats are treating this too much of a business. Football in America is ingrained in our culture, so the NFL don't totally belong to them. The NFL belongs to America. They are so wrapped up with making a buck that they can't - won't - do what's right. This is terrible a problem of the owners making.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Sep 25, 2012 at 11:48 AM ]