Damn Patrick Willis' salary is f**king huge! Can't see he doesn't deserve it though.
Bowman might end up as good as him and they will have have to pay him Willis money too.
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May 26, 2012 at 3:25 PM
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May 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM
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updated, I updated numbers for Connor Barth's extension, plus Lee's new number for 2012, and split the Safeties into 2(FS and SS). So top 20 of the following, QB, RB, WR, TE, C, OG, OT, DE, DT/NT, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, SS, PK and P.
May 30, 2012 at 9:34 AM
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
updated, I updated numbers for Connor Barth's extension, plus Lee's new number for 2012, and split the Safeties into 2(FS and SS). So top 20 of the following, QB, RB, WR, TE, C, OG, OT, DE, DT/NT, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, SS, PK and P.
We're paying 10%, 53%, 56%, and 86% more for top 20 players than are the Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals, and Raiders (respectively).
May 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM
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updated again, added in Fullbacks top 20 and at end the players missing who are franchised with their salary numbers.
Jun 3, 2012 at 11:55 PM
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Ummmm,jus wonderin something.Where is ANDRE JOHNSON on the WR list?!?!
If a mistake was made and AB left him off by accident(highly unlikely)I understand.
But if he's not TOP 3,and DHB is,somebody across the bay is smokin some good s**t!!or whoever the #'s and contracts guy is in HOU,he's doin a helluva job.
Then again,it could be contractual.I guess it could be he got big money already, he's inline for a new deal, and this years amount is real low.?? IDK.
Someone please clarify.
If a mistake was made and AB left him off by accident(highly unlikely)I understand.
But if he's not TOP 3,and DHB is,somebody across the bay is smokin some good s**t!!or whoever the #'s and contracts guy is in HOU,he's doin a helluva job.
Then again,it could be contractual.I guess it could be he got big money already, he's inline for a new deal, and this years amount is real low.?? IDK.
Someone please clarify.
[ Edited by VDpwndMjenkins on Jun 3, 2012 at 11:58 PM ]
Jun 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM
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Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Ummmm,jus wonderin something.Where is ANDRE JOHNSON on the WR list?!?!
If a mistake was made and AB left him off by accident(highly unlikely)I understand.
But if he's not TOP 3,and DHB is,somebody across the bay is smokin some good s**t!!or whoever the #'s and contracts guy is in HOU,he's doin a helluva job.
Then again,it could be contractual.I guess it could be he got big money already, he's inline for a new deal, and this years amount is real low.?? IDK.
Someone please clarify.
He is actually 31st in salary for 2012 at 3.3M, wuld be 32nd if I counted Bowe's franchise tender. Johnson is signed thru 2016.
$3.3M in 2012
$3.22M in 2013
$9.1M in 2014
$12.45M in 2015
$13.04M in 2016
those are his salaries left, includes all bonuses, whether pro-rated, roster, option pro rated or workout bonuses.
btw love your user name, Vernon did pawn Malcolm Jenkins. Not sure what Williams was thinking putting only Jenkins on Vernon. No wonder he was let go, his defenses were terrible.
Jun 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Ummmm,jus wonderin something.Where is ANDRE JOHNSON on the WR list?!?!
If a mistake was made and AB left him off by accident(highly unlikely)I understand.
But if he's not TOP 3,and DHB is,somebody across the bay is smokin some good s**t!!or whoever the #'s and contracts guy is in HOU,he's doin a helluva job.
Then again,it could be contractual.I guess it could be he got big money already, he's inline for a new deal, and this years amount is real low.?? IDK.
Someone please clarify.
He is actually 31st in salary for 2012 at 3.3M, wuld be 32nd if I counted Bowe's franchise tender. Johnson is signed thru 2016.
$3.3M in 2012
$3.22M in 2013
$9.1M in 2014
$12.45M in 2015
$13.04M in 2016
those are his salaries left, includes all bonuses, whether pro-rated, roster, option pro rated or workout bonuses.
btw love your user name, Vernon did pawn Malcolm Jenkins. Not sure what Williams was thinking putting only Jenkins on Vernon. No wonder he was let go, his defenses were terrible.
best value ever.
Jun 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM
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Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:Ummmm,jus wonderin something.Where is ANDRE JOHNSON on the WR list?!?!
If a mistake was made and AB left him off by accident(highly unlikely)I understand.
But if he's not TOP 3,and DHB is,somebody across the bay is smokin some good s**t!!or whoever the #'s and contracts guy is in HOU,he's doin a helluva job.
Then again,it could be contractual.I guess it could be he got big money already, he's inline for a new deal, and this years amount is real low.?? IDK.
Someone please clarify.
He is actually 31st in salary for 2012 at 3.3M, wuld be 32nd if I counted Bowe's franchise tender. Johnson is signed thru 2016.
$3.3M in 2012
$3.22M in 2013
$9.1M in 2014
$12.45M in 2015
$13.04M in 2016
those are his salaries left, includes all bonuses, whether pro-rated, roster, option pro rated or workout bonuses.
btw love your user name, Vernon did pawn Malcolm Jenkins. Not sure what Williams was thinking putting only Jenkins on Vernon. No wonder he was let go, his defenses were terrible.
best value ever.
I 2nd that.
his next 3yrs #'s are very friendly for his team.i already know what the deal is for years 4 n 5,restructure or bye bye probly in year 5.He'll be 34-35ish at that point.Hopefully he'll still be good at that age.Damn good reciever and a class act,stand up guy.
Thanks for the love on the name dude.ive been a visitor to the zone for years through the lost decade.was on the SJ Mercury News boards for a while,jus never felt like posting.It jus felt like id be piling on with all the complaining goin on.
But after that performance by VD,and the subsequent season,it felt like time .it all jus came together to me.the name for me marks a turning point as a fan.
In all fairness,idk who else g.williams couldve put on VD that day??speed,size,athleticism wise the 'Aints jus dont have it to match up with VD.
7 catches 180yds for a TE??wtf?? That was a helluva performance.
Jun 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM
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Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
I 2nd that.
his next 3yrs #'s are very friendly for his team.i already know what the deal is for years 4 n 5,restructure or bye bye probly in year 5.He'll be 34-35ish at that point.Hopefully he'll still be good at that age.Damn good reciever and a class act,stand up guy.
Thanks for the love on the name dude.ive been a visitor to the zone for years through the lost decade.was on the SJ Mercury News boards for a while,jus never felt like posting.It jus felt like id be piling on with all the complaining goin on.
But after that performance by VD,and the subsequent season,it felt like time .it all jus came together to me.the name for me marks a turning point as a fan.
In all fairness,idk who else g.williams couldve put on VD that day??speed,size,athleticism wise the 'Aints jus dont have it to match up with VD.
7 catches 180yds for a TE??wtf?? That was a helluva performance.
So true with the Saints Defense, or lack thereof. No one could cover Vernon. Jenkins was over matched, and Vilma likely wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
Jun 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:So true with the Saints Defense, or lack thereof. No one could cover Vernon. Jenkins was over matched, and Vilma likely wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
Btw,does it seem odd to you or anyone else that the Jags have a few players at the top of some positions???and can you corelate that with how sorry theyve been??mismanagement/ misappropriation of funds maybe??
outside of MJD,should anyone on their team be top pay at any position?? Wonder what their cap situation is like also.
Jun 4, 2012 at 7:30 PM
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Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
So true with the Saints Defense, or lack thereof. No one could cover Vernon. Jenkins was over matched, and Vilma likely wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
Btw,does it seem odd to you or anyone else that the Jags have a few players at the top of some positions???and can you corelate that with how sorry theyve been??mismanagement/ misappropriation of funds maybe??
outside of MJD,should anyone on their team be top pay at any position?? Wonder what their cap situation is like also.
They have a lot of players at high salaries. Right now they have $110M committed before Justin Blackmon signs, plus I'm shaky on Paul Posluszny's deal from 2011.
And only $89M committed for 2013 season right now. They have some players unsigned, like PK Josh Scobee, OLB Daryl Smith, OT Eugene Monroe, RB Greg Jones, C Brad Meester, DT Terrence Knighton, WR Lee Evans, and some minor players.
Marcedes Lewis' deal goes down my 3M in 2013 from $7.2M to $4.2M in cap figure. Of course MJD wants a new deal. Blackmon will take a good chunk in 2013 and beyond being a top 7 pick.
Jun 4, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:Originally posted by AB83Rules:So true with the Saints Defense, or lack thereof. No one could cover Vernon. Jenkins was over matched, and Vilma likely wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
Btw,does it seem odd to you or anyone else that the Jags have a few players at the top of some positions???and can you corelate that with how sorry theyve been??mismanagement/ misappropriation of funds maybe??
outside of MJD,should anyone on their team be top pay at any position?? Wonder what their cap situation is like also.
They have a lot of players at high salaries. Right now they have $110M committed before Justin Blackmon signs, plus I'm shaky on Paul Posluszny's deal from 2011.
And only $89M committed for 2013 season right now. They have some players unsigned, like PK Josh Scobee, OLB Daryl Smith, OT Eugene Monroe, RB Greg Jones, C Brad Meester, DT Terrence Knighton, WR Lee Evans, and some minor players.
Marcedes Lewis' deal goes down my 3M in 2013 from $7.2M to $4.2M in cap figure. Of course MJD wants a new deal. Blackmon will take a good chunk in 2013 and beyond being a top 7 pick.
SMH,for the amounts of money bein paid to some of them,I would think they would produce on the field.thanx for the info doe
[ Edited by VDpwndMjenkins on Jun 4, 2012 at 8:08 PM ]
Jun 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM
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Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
So true with the Saints Defense, or lack thereof. No one could cover Vernon. Jenkins was over matched, and Vilma likely wouldn't be able to keep up with him.
Btw,does it seem odd to you or anyone else that the Jags have a few players at the top of some positions???and can you corelate that with how sorry theyve been??mismanagement/ misappropriation of funds maybe??
outside of MJD,should anyone on their team be top pay at any position?? Wonder what their cap situation is like also.
They have a lot of players at high salaries. Right now they have $110M committed before Justin Blackmon signs, plus I'm shaky on Paul Posluszny's deal from 2011.
And only $89M committed for 2013 season right now. They have some players unsigned, like PK Josh Scobee, OLB Daryl Smith, OT Eugene Monroe, RB Greg Jones, C Brad Meester, DT Terrence Knighton, WR Lee Evans, and some minor players.
Marcedes Lewis' deal goes down my 3M in 2013 from $7.2M to $4.2M in cap figure. Of course MJD wants a new deal. Blackmon will take a good chunk in 2013 and beyond being a top 7 pick.
SMH,thanx for the info doe
No prob bud. Anytime.
Jun 7, 2012 at 6:10 PM
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Hey AB83 as always love the input. You seem to have a in on what teams are spending their money on and I have an inquiry. Out of the past ten Superbowl winners what percentage of their cap was spent on their QB. The reason I ask this is that there seems to be a consensus that you have to pay for a top tier QB in order to win super bowls but looking at it, I'm not sold that is the best way to win.
Most of the super bowl winners I can think of were playing with a up an coming QB that was on his original contract. When they paid him a high percentage of their salary cap for the team, while still being competitive, they didn't seem to be able to duplicate those results. An example would be Tom Brady. Won 3 right off the bat, when they paid him as at top QB, they have been good but zero Super Bowls. I am curious to see how the Green Bay Packers manage their team once Rodgers is getting paid 20 mil a year vs 9.
I guess what I am looking for is the idea that it is a team effort and the effect of a great QB in today's NFL is over exaggerated. Not to say it's not important to have an "Above Average" QB, but so many teams bank on the idea that they have to have an "A" grade QB; they sign a QB, who shows potential of being one yet it ends up destroying their team due to the cap. Also teams that have that great QB and spend the money to keep him end up not being able to compliment him with a great overall team. Meaning their defense becomes bad because they have not money to maintain it.
It's just a thought but wanted to see what the data stated and felt you were the man for the job.
Most of the super bowl winners I can think of were playing with a up an coming QB that was on his original contract. When they paid him a high percentage of their salary cap for the team, while still being competitive, they didn't seem to be able to duplicate those results. An example would be Tom Brady. Won 3 right off the bat, when they paid him as at top QB, they have been good but zero Super Bowls. I am curious to see how the Green Bay Packers manage their team once Rodgers is getting paid 20 mil a year vs 9.
I guess what I am looking for is the idea that it is a team effort and the effect of a great QB in today's NFL is over exaggerated. Not to say it's not important to have an "Above Average" QB, but so many teams bank on the idea that they have to have an "A" grade QB; they sign a QB, who shows potential of being one yet it ends up destroying their team due to the cap. Also teams that have that great QB and spend the money to keep him end up not being able to compliment him with a great overall team. Meaning their defense becomes bad because they have not money to maintain it.
It's just a thought but wanted to see what the data stated and felt you were the man for the job.
[ Edited by dwett on Jun 7, 2012 at 6:12 PM ]
Jun 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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Updated after Gronkowski's deal, makes him 19th paid TE for 2012, but highest overall, Deal could be only for 3-4 years, as it has a $10M option in 2016 due.