Originally posted by kingairta:
Originally posted by danimal:
I did answer. I think Belichick is a thorough student of the game. Maybe there was a long term benefit to be gained in studying for long term trends. Maybe he just wanted to be sure there was no way to get around the signal safeguards....maybe he wanted to borrow there techniques in fortifying his own safe guards. There are plenty of reasons to do it, I think this is a case of Belichick just being more thorough and intelligent and is being punished because of that.
I think it is also something to factor in that as far as we can tell Belichick was assigning very minor resources to this.
As for the asterisk thing I just think the whole concept is lame. I do absolutely view it as a All or Nothing proposition. Either stricken something from the records or leave it the f**k alone.
The reason it needs to be all or nothing is because then it becomes unfair to focus on certain championships, records or eras.
If you put an asterisk on the Pats then you better put an Asterisk on the Saints. Better put an Asterisk on the Niners of the 80's with their illegal methods of compensating players and always getting the best FA's this way. Eddie D is a felon and his charges were sports and gambling related so asterisk for all those Niner championships.
Asterisk ALL the baseball champions of the steroid era.
How about in the 60's when the pain cream was illegal, asterisk those teams too.
Damn right I am being all or nothing, you are not being all or nothing enough. If you can't define why an asterisk is called for then that opens the gates to call into question everybody.
The term "if you are not cheating you are not trying" I think fits perfectly here. It basically means if you are not constantly testing the boundaries you are not competing. But they all are competing, and they all are testing the boundaries
Everything done in the 80s was within the rules and you know it. It's what led to salary cap because the small market teams couldn't compete money wise with owners like Eddy D and Jerry Jones' As for Eddy you have the wrong decade. And it wasn't for "sports" betting it was for bribing local polititians to get a casino built in on the gulf coast.
You are not understanding the point. I feel the Niners and Cowboys were within the rules. I am speaking in terms of what many other non Niner fans felt in those times. I am pointing out the hypicrosy of Niner fans today doing exactly what we hated that was done to us in the past.
If anything we should be relating with Saints and Patriots fans and now they should relate to us better.
Same thing with the Eddie D sports betting. Cmon man, you swear I don't know what his charges were. But during that time it was pointed out how closely related the offense was to sports betting. Casinos do have sports books you know? Many Niner haters in that time did point out that it would have been one thing if Eddie D was bribing politicians to build a Mall vs a Gambling Unit when he is a owner of a NFL team, which just happens to be a highly wagered on contestant.
Bottom line is Patriot fans views the rest of us as haters just as we once did.....and I for one think they are right
[ Edited by danimal on May 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM ]