Originally posted by Otohns:
Originally posted by sfout:
actually the pats trade back because the recognize that typically a 2nd rounder is rarely different from a mid to late 1st round talent and they'd rather take the chance on 1 or all of the picks they acquire developing rather then hoping the 1 1st rounder pans out. It has little to nothing to do with cost.
but yes many more top picks that aren't immediately producing or showing promise will now be kicked to the curb a lot quicker then in years past. Players like Blaine Gabbert will be gone with 1-2 more years if they dont show that they will be a capable player.
Cam Newton's #1 overal deal is 4 year $20M deal that is fully guaranteed compared to Sam Bradford's 6 year $78M w/ 50 of it guaranteed.
2/5's the cost for a #1 overall pick???? Yes please.
You're right. In second thought, the Patriots may not have been the best example for me to use for a team that would trade down. Maybe a better example would have been the 49ers in the year they selected Alex Smith with the 1st overall pick. It was considered a relatively poor draft class, and instead of trading down to avoid having to pay a high salary for Alex Smith, they picked him and had to sign him for a relatively "value-poor" salary (which was since restructured).
While I agree that poorly proceeding high 1st round picks are always at risk of getting kicked to the curb is a reality, Gabbert may not have been the best example because had he been selected PRIOR to the rookie salary cap, it would be even more likely for him to be kicked to the curb if he doesn't produce.
No he wasn't. The cap was instituted for this past draft, thats how Newton's deal is so massively low compared to Bradford's.
That's a contract for the 11th overall player from the 2011 draft
Blaine Gabbert Quarterback 7/28/2011: Signed a four-year, $12 million contract.
The deal is fully guaranteed, including a $7.228 million signing bonus. 2012: $920,529, 2013: $1,466,058, 2014: $2,011,587, 2015: Free Agent
compared to the 11th overall player from the 2010 draft
Anthony Davis Tackle 7/30/2010: Signed a five-year, $26.5 million contract
. The deal contains $15.954 million guaranteed. 2012: $925,000, 2013: $1.3 million, 2014: $1,073,600, 2015: Free Agent
Thats the rookie wage scale at work for you. The way the scale protects the younger players is that all the new deals are fully guaranteed but come in at 2/5's the cost of the contracts from years past.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 23, 2012 at 6:43 AM ]