Why Brady can't be compared to Montana

You can't beat JOE!!!!....

He is simply the best, never throw an interception or took a safety now as well...lol

Loved it... hahahahaha...

Originally posted by kezarkid:
Super Bowl XLVI provided Tom Brady another opportunity to distance himself from Joe Montana's no loss Super Bowl record. Tom has now failed twice,distancing himself from Montana's no loss Super Bowl record.Montana, obviously retired , has no chance to equal Brady's two losses . Just watching the final Pat drive , before they gave it up to the G- Men for the game winning drive , if only they had JOE leading them it would have been a different story.

...............Joe knows Super Bowls.................

I've never seen Joe lose a Superbowl...TWICE... Tom Brady can go f**k his sexy ass wife while I fantasize about our Joe

Wrong forum. Tom Brady is not a 49er. Nor is he Joe Montana. I place him right behind Joe Cool.

When you look at the Brady in the context of other great QB's, I would argue that his championship run does not compare to the likes of Montana, Aikman, and other great "dynasty" QB's. My argument is that 2001-2004 saw some of the weakest competition in the last 30 years.

Montana: I'll look at Montana from 84 on. His 49ers teams had to deal with all-time opponents whose teams were all time teams. Bears, Giants, Redskins were formidable superbowl winning teams. He had to face hall of famers like Marino, Elway and QB's who were close like Simms, Boomer (he won an MVP), Kelly, Cunningham (I'm sure I'm forgeting people here) etc.

Aikman: Moving into the 90's there were great teams and QB's abound. The 9ers were great early on and the Packers were great in the middle. Young, Favre, Elway, Kelly, Aikman were all playing at a hall of fame level.

05-current. We are seeing another influx of hall of fame QB's. Both Mannings, Ben, Rodgers, Brady, Brees are all playing at high levels and will be in the Hall of Fame.

01-04 (3 NE superbowls): Who is Brady/NE competing against here? Peyton for sure but the Colts had bad defenses back then. Other than that we see Warner and Favre at down times in their careers. McNabb was very good but not HoF type player IMO. Who else? What other great player/team was Brady competing against?

I'm not saying Brady isn't a HofF Qb, he is. But I just don't think we can judge him on the same level as Montana and some of the others given what I've stated above. Thoughts?

My biggest problem with this argument has always been the way Brady reacts to pressure. I've never seen a QB have SO MUCH FRICKING TIME to throw the ball. That year he threw 50 TD's, he had all day to air mail passes to Moss, who outran everybody. They also ran the spread and must have passed 50 times per game.

My point is, where's the pressure? It takes getting all the way to the Super Bowl for someone to finally pressure him, then he loses.

Montana was getting killed half the time, and he was unbelievable at escaping pressure. If you don't remember, go watch some film and there is no comparison in this area.

Anyways, it's comparing apples to oranges now because of rule changes. In fact, even Montana benefitted from the Mel Blount rule, so QBs before Montana had receivers that were getting, not only mugged, but thugged, beaten, and slammed to the ground. So, QB's in the 70's had a disadvantage, and they had only 14 games. Too hard to compare QB's from different time periods.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by kezarkid:

Super Bowl XLVI provided Tom Brady another opportunity to distance himself from Joe Montana's no loss Super Bowl record. Tom has now failed twice,distancing himself from Montana's no loss Super Bowl record.Montana, obviously retired , has no chance to equal Brady's two losses . Just watching the final Pat drive , before they gave it up to the G- Men for the game winning drive , if only they had JOE leading them it would have been a different story.

...............Joe knows Super Bowls.................

Brady doesn't have Joe's hops either.

Elway lost how many Super Bowls and some still consider him the greatest ever. I think this argument is fail

Originally posted by Paul:
Elway lost how many Super Bowls and some still consider him the greatest ever. I think this argument is fail

Like the ugly girls you post in the pron star thread

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

Originally posted by Paul:
Elway lost how many Super Bowls and some still consider him the greatest ever. I think this argument is fail

Like the ugly girls you post in the pron star thread

thats f**ked up

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Like the ugly girls you post in the pron star thread

Hilarious

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

Originally posted by Paul:
Elway lost how many Super Bowls and some still consider him the greatest ever. I think this argument is fail

Like the ugly girls you post in the pron star thread

thats f**ked up

Haha. LOL....

Originally posted by sachie23:

When you look at the Brady in the context of other great QB's, I would argue that his championship run does not compare to the likes of Montana, Aikman, and other great "dynasty" QB's. My argument is that 2001-2004 saw some of the weakest competition in the last 30 years.

Montana: I'll look at Montana from 84 on. His 49ers teams had to deal with all-time opponents whose teams were all time teams. Bears, Giants, Redskins were formidable superbowl winning teams. He had to face hall of famers like Marino, Elway and QB's who were close like Simms, Boomer (he won an MVP), Kelly, Cunningham (I'm sure I'm forgeting people here) etc.

Aikman: Moving into the 90's there were great teams and QB's abound. The 9ers were great early on and the Packers were great in the middle. Young, Favre, Elway, Kelly, Aikman were all playing at a hall of fame level.

05-current. We are seeing another influx of hall of fame QB's. Both Mannings, Ben, Rodgers, Brady, Brees are all playing at high levels and will be in the Hall of Fame.

01-04 (3 NE superbowls): Who is Brady/NE competing against here? Peyton for sure but the Colts had bad defenses back then. Other than that we see Warner and Favre at down times in their careers. McNabb was very good but not HoF type player IMO. Who else? What other great player/team was Brady competing against?

I'm not saying Brady isn't a HofF Qb, he is. But I just don't think we can judge him on the same level as Montana and some of the others given what I've stated above. Thoughts?

Almost perfect assessment except aikman didn't do much ever in his career except hand off to smith behind the great ol. He was def a game manager......throwing for close to 20 td s a year. No thanks.

Also do people realize Montana was not only the best decision maker at qb, he was a tally mobile? Getting 50 rushing yards in 2 SBS! Just wow. Plus he won 2 SBS without rice and Taylor Brent jones. Sick