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What are other teams' fans saying about the Crabtree holdout?

Isn't obvious to everyone in the league now that the 5 players that aren't signed are all waiting to see if Crabtree is slotted correctly or gets more money.

I'm wondering if other teams are mad that their guys aren't in camp, or if the Niner fans are just at a fever pitch because our first round pick is at a "skill" position.


Are they giving their guy a pass and blaming their pick's holdout on Crabtree?????

[ Edited by global_nomad on Aug 11, 2009 at 13:55:45 ]
There all basically saying bust , diva, prima donna.
So far, I haven't read any comments who support Crabtree, his agent or his "advisor". Everyone is making fun of his contract demands, threats to holdout all season and saying that it's players like these that proves the NFL needs a rookie salary cap. I fully agree.
Pretty much all other fans I talk to in person think the whole thing is hilarious. I'd probably think the same if it was happening to another team.
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
So far, I haven't read any comments who support Crabtree, his agent or his "advisor". Everyone is making fun of his contract demands, threats to holdout all season and saying that it's players like these that proves the NFL needs a rookie salary cap. I fully agree.

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I guess I mean do other fans want their players in camp as much as we want Crabtree. A


Are giving their guy a pass and blaming their pick's holdout on Crabtree?????
ROOKIE SALARY CAP! FTW!

$500,000... 1 year. Prove yourself. If you don't like it... stay in school or go flip burgers.
Originally posted by RYPTOUT:
ROOKIE SALARY CAP! FTW!

$500,000... 1 year. Prove yourself. If you don't like it... stay in school or go flip burgers.

i should be at least 1 mil..
Originally posted by susweel:
There all basically saying bust , diva, prima donna.
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A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000
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If you are in your second year and making pro bowls and stuff like that then you can hold out because than you have a reason to demand more money. You have proven you can produce at this level.

But don't pull a Crabtree and hold out before you even prove anything.
Originally posted by RYPTOUT:
ROOKIE SALARY CAP! FTW!

$500,000... 1 year. Prove yourself. If you don't like it... stay in school or go flip burgers.

I like the idea, although I think it should be a bit more declared so to speak...like first rounders all get 4-6 year contracts, all heavily incentive based, that will guarantee them like 2 million...
2nd rounders 4-6 year contracts guaranteed 1 million
3rd rounders 4-6 year contracts guaranteed 750K
4th rounders, 3-5 year contracts guaranteed 500k
5th rounders, 3-5 year contracts guaranteed 250k
6th rounders, 3-5 year contracts guaranteed 200k
7th rounders, 3-5 year contracts guaranteed 150k

BAM as much as Id like to just have em all play for no more than half a mill guaranteed, I just dont see that going down with the NFL Players Union...truth be told, idk how this will float their boat, but hey, I think it isnt that bad...think about it...a college student whose worked his ass off for 3-4 years to prove himself to be a 1st round product, well we will reward you for the hard work you did in college, guarantee you 2 MILLION dollars, more than you've probably ever seen in your life (unless your dad is Joe Montana)...and it goes down from there...I think Players Union would find this suitable as would the owners and rest of the NFL as well as its fans...
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Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.

exactly
My sense is that everyone pretty much thinks Crabtree is a prima donna idiot who needs to sign, and I haven't really seen or heard anything bad directed at the 9ers (even from Raiders fans). The way it's playing out, from what I can see, Crabtree's main claim to fame ten or so years from now might be as the catalyst that necessitated the rookie salary cap per draft slot position - that's a pretty dubious achievement.