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These DB times are coming off slower than the other groups.

Kenny Phillips 4.54 and Quentin Demps 4.38
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Originally posted by Defuego:
Originally posted by ezekiel39:
Originally posted by hec26:
Originally posted by ezekiel39:
Originally posted by hec26:
damn no cromartie for us well time to move on

I can't move on!!!!!!!!! I just saw his 40 time and i'm about to cry. New England is gonna take him. And for the first time, i mean the very first, i am wishing we had that 7th pick in the draft. DRC should be ours. I am very pleased with Staley but man i want DRC

!@&!@&#&*!#&!&!#&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did he have to run so damn fast!!!
i had a feeling he'll probably run the fastest if not the fastest of the top cbs coming out. the player i want is not meant to be im bad luck. just any team but the pats or hopefully he doesnt fall to the cowb*tches

He won't fall to Dallas but if New England gets him with the pick we traded them i might stab myself in the head with a knife, or go straight up Sharon Stone on myself with an icepick.

As good as Staley is, DRC is way better.

Come on now, put down the pipe. DRC has not played a single down in the NFL. Yes, he looks like a good prospect and I would love to have him on the 49ers, but there is no way at this point that anyone absolutely knows that he is a better prospect than Staley. It might turn out that way, but it also might turn out that he is a bust.

Are we back in reality yet people?

I put down the pipe a few hours ago. First, i think there is no question (correct me if i'm wrong) that DRC is a better PROSPECT than Staley. I don't know how he'll play in the NFL, but i would make quite a large wager that he will be no bust.

And for the record, i have NEVER posted about the Staley trade being stupid. At the time i was stoked that we made the move, especially since we got a 1st back from INdy. No way we knew we were gonna suck like we did and get the 7th pick, so i was fine with Nolan taking the initiative to grab for us a talented OT in the way he did. BUT....there was noone i really coveted between pick 6-12 this year that made me ever regret we ended up doing this trade last year. Until now. That's all i'm saying. DRC will be an elite player in this league. Disagree with me if you want.
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Then what makes you wish we had our 7th pick back? Before today, i was fine picking at 29 and 39, knowing we already acquired a talented OT last year and now has a year under his belt. And that now we needed just one more OT and we are done with this position for a long time. Not to mention noone around pick 6-12 i liked that much, and we don't have to pay a lot of money again to a high draft pick.

But if DRC goes top ten and we could have had him, it is pretty depressing. I wouldn't mind paying that kid top-ten pick money.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Would you really want to be looking for 2 good OT's as opposed to just 1? DRC has more flash (and I want him badly) but Staley was the correct investment. I would feel more confident with Nolan and the O if we get a starter worthy RT, the line would be set for years and Alex and Frank would have the protection the desperately need. I know how high of a commodity DRC looks but I'm sure next year there will be some kid thats just as amazing. Plus depending on draft day he may be there. Teams have greater needs then just a good CB.
Originally posted by ezekiel39:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Then what makes you wish we had our 7th pick back? Before today, i was fine picking at 29 and 39, knowing we already acquired a talented OT last year and now has a year under his belt. And that now we needed just one more OT and we are done with this position for a long time. Not to mention noone around pick 6-12 i liked that much, and we don't have to pay a lot of money again to a high draft pick.

But if DRC goes top ten and we could have had him, it is pretty depressing. I wouldn't mind paying that kid top-ten pick money.

Because, if we had our 7th back, we'd be in a position to make a move for either Chris Long or Sedrick Ellis and still be in a position to grab a couple OTs (with us possibly moving to a zone line, we likely don't need 1st round OTs).
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Would you really want to be looking for 2 good OT's as opposed to just 1? DRC has more flash (and I want him badly) but Staley was the correct investment. I would feel more confident with Nolan and the O if we get a starter worthy RT, the line would be set for years and Alex and Frank would have the protection the desperately need. I know how high of a commodity DRC looks but I'm sure next year there will be some kid thats just as amazing. Plus depending on draft day he may be there. Teams have greater needs then just a good CB.


You're absolutely correct. I would not trade Staley for DRC. As I said in my post, Staley fills a bigger need. Again...it's not DRC that makes me wish we had our #7 pick back. Not to mention that if we hadn't moved up to take Staley, we likely would have taken Ugoh in the 2nd and still only need to fill one OT position.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Feb 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM ]
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

Thanks...I feel vindicated.
One more note: If Aqib Talib's unofficial number holds up at 4.47, he has to smile. Although not a fast number compared to many of the top CB's in the forty, it shows good speed for his size, and keeps him in the top 35-40 picks.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Would you really want to be looking for 2 good OT's as opposed to just 1? DRC has more flash (and I want him badly) but Staley was the correct investment. I would feel more confident with Nolan and the O if we get a starter worthy RT, the line would be set for years and Alex and Frank would have the protection the desperately need. I know how high of a commodity DRC looks but I'm sure next year there will be some kid thats just as amazing. Plus depending on draft day he may be there. Teams have greater needs then just a good CB.

Next year's crop of OTs may suck, while this year's is loaded with talent. Our OL is depleted with L. Allen and K. Harris gone and JJ on his way, so it makes good sense to get a stud RT like Nicks while he's available and at a good position in the draft. Our D-line is depleted, too, so I see two D-linemen and two OL coming to us via the draft.
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.
Originally posted by ezekiel39:
Ghost, MD, Nvchamp, would DRC be a reach at this point for New England at 7? I haven't seen his performance today, just heard what you guys said here, so i don't know if today jumped him into the top 10.

Probably a bit of a reach come April, but once he suits up (like the Bills Donte Whitner), the whole "reach" discussion will likely go out the window. Don't get me wrong, he's still pretty raw and will likely struggle somewhat in his first season regardless of his draft position, but you just can't find CBs with his size/speed/athleticism/ball skills. They are truly rare.
Originally posted by Canuck9er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Would you really want to be looking for 2 good OT's as opposed to just 1? DRC has more flash (and I want him badly) but Staley was the correct investment. I would feel more confident with Nolan and the O if we get a starter worthy RT, the line would be set for years and Alex and Frank would have the protection the desperately need. I know how high of a commodity DRC looks but I'm sure next year there will be some kid thats just as amazing. Plus depending on draft day he may be there. Teams have greater needs then just a good CB.

Next year's crop of OTs may suck, while this year's is loaded with talent. Our OL is depleted with L. Allen and K. Harris gone and JJ on his way, so it makes good sense to get a stud RT like Nicks while he's available and at a good position in the draft. Our D-line is depleted, too, so I see two D-linemen and two OL coming to us via the draft.

I would be a very happy camper if you are right.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
One more note: If Aqib Talib's unofficial number holds up at 4.47, he has to smile. Although not a fast number compared to many of the top CB's in the forty, it shows good speed for his size, and keeps him in the top 35-40 picks.

Very true b/c pure speed isn't nothing as a CB if yoru technique is poor and you can't get your hips turned. I think Talib has preety good technique for his size.