Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:I firmly believe Joyner will be selected somewhere in the 2nd. He is a playmaker, no doubt, but he checked into the combine smaller than anticipated.
Measurables: 5' 7 3/4" 184, and expected to run around a 4.5
Bob Sanders was 5' 8 3/8" 205 and ran a 4.3 and was a monster playmaker at Iowa and fell to the 2nd. Joyner will be there. I would love to have him, but just not in the 1st.
Where did you get that measurement from? Everywhere I've looked he's exactly 5'8"...........
Exactly. Not that it really matters much, but he's listed at just about everywhere I've seen as 5'8" on the dot.
Weird! I totally read 5' 7 3/4" the other day when I first looked -- something must've changed (or I was reading the wrong player or something)
In any case, Ghost is right, 1/4" doesn't really matter. Joyner finishes with an official 4.55 forty. At 5-8 184 4.55, he won't be a first rounder. To be a first rounder, there are often certain requirements that players have to meet. Lacking a single measurable, or even two, can sometimes be compensated for in other ways. Joyner unfortunately lacks the measurable across the board in height, size with respect to weight, and elite timed or above-average TIMED speed.
This is why Verrett will go in the 1st, and Joyner won't.
For teams that have seen him though, they can see that his coverage ability and play-making acumen make him worthy of a high selection, especially when you consider on the field he looks a bit faster than he timed.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Feb 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM ]