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Wide Receiver Class of 2014

  • buck
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Djiam49:
Please... No... Not the "draft another receiver with the 1st round pick talk." I cant take it!!! We need a slot receiver with speed also. They are great for a team. But, back to the point: We can get a receiver in the 2nd-4th round. I actually think Quinton Patton will be pretty good (hey Cap, that's the receiver to your left who was wide open and begging for the ball as you threw the killer INT, SMH). I'm still bitter!!! Still love my QB, though. I dont have a selection for the draft spot, although I'm so against receiver. We have drafted our best receivers after the 3rd round. There are good ones out there, but we seemed focused on the big schools. Lets take a chance on a 3rd rounder from a small college. Please!!! No more !st round WR. I will just die

If our QB can learn to see the field and make the right decision we are fine with what we have now.

The WZ wants a WR in the 1st round every single year for 10 years in a row. It's their favorite position. They are Matt Millen.

The thread is about wide receivers--not Kaepernick. You insist on starting a polemic on Kaepernick. There are threads on Kaepernick. Take your polemic to one of them.

Trying to get another thread locked are you?
[ Edited by buck on Jan 29, 2014 at 9:24 PM ]
Originally posted by cools:
Im going with D.Adams, Fresno St. Great combo of speed, size, strength, seperation, hands and attitude, and he's a west coaster

Later in the draft add D.Archer, Kent St. as a return specialist

The only issue w/drafting Archer as a KR specialist is that he needs to be more than one-dimensional as it seems like roster spots are at a premium. Possibly makes LMJ expendable, not sure, but if he's better we keep him.

However, can Archer also play on the coverage units? Big question mark.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
id still draft two receivers with one of them being hella early. baldwin will be cut to make more room under the cap and we still need more depth and receivers to groom for when boldin retires/moves on. why not address the receiver position when its our only obvious bottleneck for our offense? we were so limited in what we could do this year with crabs out, i never want to see that happen again

People aren't thinking about injuries at all. What happens if Boldin goes down...or Crabtree again? If VD goes out, its like they forgot how inept this offense looked without some sort of speed to keep defense's honest. They need someone to develop for the future alongside Patton, they also need a true deep threat, a gamebreaker type who can get downfield in a hurry and make full use of the cannon that Kaepernick has for an arm.

I fully expect to carry six. Crabtree, Boldin, and Patton are the only three i really care to keep TBH. I hope we bring back Osgood as well, but he is limited as a WR. Even if Boldin is back i fully expect us to draft a WR in the top three rounds, likely the top two, as well as add a WR that adds ST value as well. So even if osgood is that 6th WR, we still have room to add two WR's IMO.

Also i know wylie has been mentioned, but i dont expect him to stick TBH, especially if we address the position like we should. I just dont see him as a WR in the nfl, and Osgood is a better carry for ST, if we add a WR in this draft that has return ability than wylie has basically no shot.
[ Edited by IdahoNiner on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:06 PM ]
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To be totally honest, I liked what I saw from Jacobs in preseason....He could be wildcard to consider. Just sayin
Should have draft Keenan Allen. Seriously though, I agree, no receiver in the first round again. Let's get the best defensive back either cornerback or safety we can possibly get. Just imagine what a lock down corner would do for an already stellar defense. We can go after a speedy slot reciever later.
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I doubt Archer can play on coverage units, but he put up good #s as a RB and WR, and he'd be like a 7th round pick, so if he doesnt work out no biggie

Soloman Patton, Florida who is also in that 7th round area may be a better choice, cause he produced in the SEC, but gotta love that 4.2 speed Archer has
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If our QB can learn to see the field and make the right decision we are fine with what we have now. The WZ wants a WR in the 1st round every single year for 10 years in a row. It's their favorite position. They are Matt Millen.

Matt Millen was a joke.. people on here might being wanna a WR in tha 1st round bit its for a good reason ...before crabtree N boldin all our WRz sucked yr after yr ...TO was tha great WR we had(yea i said great cause he is sh*t i had my popcorn ready watchin him)..we need to draft a few WRz with a class this deep at least 2(J.Matthews N O.beckham JR anyone )...
[ Edited by tatdwolf49 on Jan 30, 2014 at 1:03 AM ]
BPA on CB, S, WR in the first few rds, I prefer. Maybe get that QB in rd 2-3.
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
The only issue w/drafting Archer as a KR specialist is that he needs to be more than one-dimensional as it seems like roster spots are at a premium. Possibly makes LMJ expendable, not sure, but if he's better we keep him.

However, can Archer also play on the coverage units? Big question mark.

Ted Ginn was on this roster for a while doing nothing but essentially a return specialist.

Archer has rare speed and plays tough given his size. He can certainly come in on some downs either at RB or WR and help the team on offense. Even as a decoy on deep routes he can help. When someone has that type of speed on the field they have to be accounted for. Send him deep and either get him the ball or have him clear out some stuff underneath.
I've been driving the Allen Robinson bandwagon for a while now. He could fill Anquan Boldin's role in the near future. I think we could draft him in the late 1st-2nd round range.




I also like Clemson WR Martavis Bryant at some point in the draft. I think he has a good mix of size and speed.


[ Edited by PTulini on Jan 30, 2014 at 8:53 AM ]
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by buck:
Peshek: WR Metrics 2.0

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46136/349/peshek-wr-metrics-20

Interesting read. It raises some questions about Jordan Matthews, my favorite receiver in this class.
Crabtree gained a good chunk of his yards after catch at Texas Tech on WR screens. Safe to say that YAC ability translated fine in the NFL.

Good counterpoint to concerns raised in the article(s).

I think the bigger concern is how "polished" the receiver is and how many routes he can run with precision. Crabtree ran plenty of screens, but Texas Tech had him running every route in the tree. Crabtree was never a speed guy. He made his name by being able to gain separation with technique and intelligence. The fear is that guys running a huge number of screens have great athletic ability, but can't really on their route running ability to gain separation (See Ginn, Ted). Ultimately, Baalke will look for the receiver with these skill sets:

1. Blocking - If he can't or won't run block, he won't play. That was a big problem with Jenkins (among many). Does Marquise Lee's size make him a less effective blocker?

2. Hands - Kaepernick has one of the strongest arms in the league. He loves whipping it into a window and letting his receivers snatch at it. If he can't catch fastballs with his bare hands, we don't want him. Crabtree and Boldin both have big, strong hands and can consistently pull it down without their body. Who in this class has the best pure hands? Beckham? Robinson?

3. Intelligence - WR seems to be the position with the least amount of growth for our young players. Almost every other position on this team boasts a player who is out performing his perceived ceiling (Bruce Miller, Chris Culliver, Dan Skuta, etc.) Which leads me to believe we have a weakness in the WR coaching department. That means any player we draft needs to be self motivated and have a good grasp on his position.

No other traits in a WR are deal breakers. We are clamoring for a speed guy, like Torrey Smith, to open up defenses, but I don't think Baalke or Harbaugh put that much of a premium on elite speed. Right now I like Beckham, but I don't know the prospects well enough.
Originally posted by Karma:
I think the bigger concern is how "polished" the receiver is and how many routes he can run with precision. Crabtree ran plenty of screens, but Texas Tech had him running every route in the tree. Crabtree was never a speed guy. He made his name by being able to gain separation with technique and intelligence. The fear is that guys running a huge number of screens have great athletic ability, but can't really on their route running ability to gain separation (See Ginn, Ted). Ultimately, Baalke will look for the receiver with these skill sets:

1. Blocking - If he can't or won't run block, he won't play. That was a big problem with Jenkins (among many). Does Marquise Lee's size make him a less effective blocker?

2. Hands - Kaepernick has one of the strongest arms in the league. He loves whipping it into a window and letting his receivers snatch at it. If he can't catch fastballs with his bare hands, we don't want him. Crabtree and Boldin both have big, strong hands and can consistently pull it down without their body. Who in this class has the best pure hands? Beckham? Robinson?

3. Intelligence - WR seems to be the position with the least amount of growth for our young players. Almost every other position on this team boasts a player who is out performing his perceived ceiling (Bruce Miller, Chris Culliver, Dan Skuta, etc.) Which leads me to believe we have a weakness in the WR coaching department. That means any player we draft needs to be self motivated and have a good grasp on his position.

No other traits in a WR are deal breakers. We are clamoring for a speed guy, like Torrey Smith, to open up defenses, but I don't think Baalke or Harbaugh put that much of a premium on elite speed. Right now I like Beckham, but I don't know the prospects well enough.


Hands? Blocking? Intelligence? Sounds like you really want Jarvis Landry.
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Originally posted by Karma:
I think the bigger concern is how "polished" the receiver is and how many routes he can run with precision. Crabtree ran plenty of screens, but Texas Tech had him running every route in the tree. Crabtree was never a speed guy. He made his name by being able to gain separation with technique and intelligence. The fear is that guys running a huge number of screens have great athletic ability, but can't really on their route running ability to gain separation (See Ginn, Ted). Ultimately, Baalke will look for the receiver with these skill sets:

1. Blocking - If he can't or won't run block, he won't play. That was a big problem with Jenkins (among many). Does Marquise Lee's size make him a less effective blocker?

2. Hands - Kaepernick has one of the strongest arms in the league. He loves whipping it into a window and letting his receivers snatch at it. If he can't catch fastballs with his bare hands, we don't want him. Crabtree and Boldin both have big, strong hands and can consistently pull it down without their body. Who in this class has the best pure hands? Beckham? Robinson?

3. Intelligence - WR seems to be the position with the least amount of growth for our young players. Almost every other position on this team boasts a player who is out performing his perceived ceiling (Bruce Miller, Chris Culliver, Dan Skuta, etc.) Which leads me to believe we have a weakness in the WR coaching department. That means any player we draft needs to be self motivated and have a good grasp on his position.

No other traits in a WR are deal breakers. We are clamoring for a speed guy, like Torrey Smith, to open up defenses, but I don't think Baalke or Harbaugh put that much of a premium on elite speed. Right now I like Beckham, but I don't know the prospects well enough.

Work ethic is a deal breaker and it is not on your list.
Originally posted by buck:
Work ethic is a deal breaker and it is not on your list.

This too.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by buck:
Work ethic is a deal breaker and it is not on your list.

This too.

Fair enough. I guess you can add character and confidence to that list.