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what logic is it to trade up

looking at reports that say we will trade up , i see no dominate player that is a must have, our need is basically a cb , nt, , fs, ss, and wr , and the players that will fit our scheme is eric reid, jesse williams , johnathan banks, cj jones , and corey fuller , me personally i think we should trade down
Originally posted by 15crabtree:
looking at reports that say we will trade up , i see no dominate player that is a must have, our need is basically a cb , nt, , fs, ss, and wr , and the players that will fit our scheme is eric reid, jesse williams , johnathan banks, cj jones , and corey fuller , me personally i think we should trade down

This belongs in the draft section but I'll play along.

I'm thinking that the talk about us moving up is most likely a smoke screen. Unless somebody we really coveted fell to us at 31 I wouldn't be surprised if we traded back into the second and picked up some more picks for next years draft.

Also don't forget about about TE, we essentially lost a starter in Delanie and with how many 2 TE sets we run, we may be looking at picking up a TE with one of our first 3 picks.
Originally posted by 15crabtree:
looking at reports that say we will trade up , i see no dominate player that is a must have, our need is basically a cb , nt, , fs, ss, and wr , and the players that will fit our scheme is eric reid, jesse williams , johnathan banks, cj jones , and corey fuller , me personally i think we should trade down



And what makes your opinion more valued than Trent Baalke's? lol
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
And what makes your opinion more valued than Trent Baalke's? lol

Message board posters >>>> Trent Baalke!
I think it's a non-issue. Seems to me to be a smoke screen. If the 49ers do any trading up, it will most likely be for more 2nd/3rd round picks. IMVHO. FWIW.
Draft Geno and trade him up for Star Lotulelei and another draft pick
We have so many picks the team will have to do some trading. Iirc we have what the 34 or 35 pick? Very likely we trade up in the 1st and get some great talent and trade back in the second for future picks.

But what do I know I'm just speculating. Either way its gonna be an interesting draft.


If we don't trade I'm betting we draft bpa not a need per say.
We have some spots we could try and get bonifide starters. IE Vacarro,Cyprien,Ertz and I really like Hunt I think he is a freak! I hope we either go up an get Vaccaro or sit tight and move up from 3rd and 4the round to second round.
If Baalke, Harbaugh and the scouts really like a player they know won't fall to him it makes perfect sense to move up. This team doesn't have a lot of needs and with 13 picks they will be pretty active.
Originally posted by cashmahne:
If Baalke, Harbaugh and the scouts really like a player they know won't fall to him it makes perfect sense to move up. This team doesn't have a lot of needs and with 13 picks they will be pretty active.

This.


If you want a player that won't fall to your spot, you trade up. Simple logic
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by cashmahne:
If Baalke, Harbaugh and the scouts really like a player they know won't fall to him it makes perfect sense to move up. This team doesn't have a lot of needs and with 13 picks they will be pretty active.

This.


If you want a player that won't fall to your spot, you trade up. Simple logic

Trading up only occurs if you have a draft crush. And is not unlike gushing over a car within view of your car salesman. He just hooked a fat one.

Baalke ain't gonna get hook'd
It's not all about individuals' draft crushes. There are always players who fall below their consensus projections (by GM's and analysts). This could happen because a lot of teams in front have different needs, which cause a better prospect to fall or certain GM's could dislike individual prospects or think they are a bad scheme fit even if that view is not widespread throughout the league. Teams trade up if they think a player fell further than they should have and believe there is a value to trading up either because the player is a perfect fit or is more talented than the draft position suggests. Reaching for need is not usually a good idea, but a lot of teams trade up thinking there is a value to getting a player who fell way past where they ranked him.

I just don't think it's as cut and dry as some of you are suggesting - "Trading up is bad and trading down is good". If anything, I think the 49ers are in a better position to move up than usual because they have so many draft picks and don't have that many needs that need to be met this season.
Originally posted by OldJoe:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by cashmahne:
If Baalke, Harbaugh and the scouts really like a player they know won't fall to him it makes perfect sense to move up. This team doesn't have a lot of needs and with 13 picks they will be pretty active.

This.


If you want a player that won't fall to your spot, you trade up. Simple logic

Trading up only occurs if you have a draft crush. And is not unlike gushing over a car within view of your car salesman. He just hooked a fat one.

Baalke ain't gonna get hook'd
Baalke likes a guy and doesn't think he will be at his spot he will trade up. A Davis, and Colin are examples of this already. If we trade up it's going to be for a player he wants and think would make a impact on this team as rookie.
If anything, I hope we trade our #34 for a future 1st. I love that idea. But if we trade up, it's because Baalke feels a player is extremely good. And we're not about to have 12 rookies make this team. At most, I see 5 or 6. If they're lucky. So, preferable, I think we trade for future picks. If not, we need to trade up when the value is best.

In Harbaalke we trust.
$800k+ cap room to sign 13 rookies? yeah, do the math

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