Not seeing Keenan Allen on your list is a surprize.
Is he not there because of his injury or is it just that you do not feel he is a not a top 50 pick even without the injury?
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Mar 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM
- buck
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Mar 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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First, really great stuff, MD. Not saying I agree with everything, but I like what you do.
- Love seeing Poyer higher up on the rankings.
- my, my... has Robert Alford and BW Webb skyrocketed.. though I do like both, but not that high.
- Cyprien is getting serious hype.. still think his true value is in the 2nd rd.
- far too low for Bjoern Werner.
- far too high for Jamie Collins, Sly Williams, Tavarres King, and Marquise Goodwin.
- Love seeing Poyer higher up on the rankings.
- my, my... has Robert Alford and BW Webb skyrocketed.. though I do like both, but not that high.
- Cyprien is getting serious hype.. still think his true value is in the 2nd rd.
- far too low for Bjoern Werner.
- far too high for Jamie Collins, Sly Williams, Tavarres King, and Marquise Goodwin.
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM
- MadDog49er
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Originally posted by buck:
Not seeing Keenan Allen on your list is a surprize.
Is he not there because of his injury or is it just that you do not feel he is a not a top 50 pick even without the injury?
I grade him as a low second rounder, and thus off the list.
Reports from the performance camps where players were training were...lukewarm on his stacking up against lesser known players. Don't know if this is true, but lot of question marks right now for me.
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM
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Got to think Cyprien is going to go at 31 or 32 with both the Niners and Ravens having serious needs at safety (both Ravens' starters are gone in Reed and Pollard). Love Alford and Webb, and McFaddon, and Pryor. All of these guys have terrific footwork.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Collins as a late first. He is booming up the boards. Why not? He was a terrific college player and maybe the most athletic player at the combine. Goodwin blows the top off of coverage. He is so crazy fast. Corners have to play so far back to not be roasted. I think he has that same Steve Smith effect in getting CB's to line up way off the LOS. King is smooth as butter. My top three route runners include Hopkins, King and Bailey (who is just off the list).
Wouldn't be surprised to see Collins as a late first. He is booming up the boards. Why not? He was a terrific college player and maybe the most athletic player at the combine. Goodwin blows the top off of coverage. He is so crazy fast. Corners have to play so far back to not be roasted. I think he has that same Steve Smith effect in getting CB's to line up way off the LOS. King is smooth as butter. My top three route runners include Hopkins, King and Bailey (who is just off the list).
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Mar 27, 2013 at 9:07 AM ]
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:15 AM
- Travisty13
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Why no Kawann Short? Hamstring injury, that's limited him, hurting his draft stock?
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:31 AM
- Jakemall
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Got to think Cyprien is going to go at 31 or 32 with both the Niners and Ravens having serious needs at safety (both Ravens' starters are gone in Reed and Pollard). Love Alford and Webb, and McFaddon, and Pryor. All of these guys have terrific footwork.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Collins as a late first. He is booming up the boards. Why not? He was a terrific college player and maybe the most athletic player at the combine. Goodwin blows the top off of coverage. He is so crazy fast. Corners have to play so far back to not be roasted. I think he has that same Steve Smith effect in getting CB's to line up way off the LOS. King is smooth as butter. My top three route runners include Hopkins, King and Bailey (who is just off the list).
Could see Ravens leapfrog us to get one of the guys they want.
I'm on the Cornelius Washington bandwagon..but 30th best player?
[ Edited by Jakemall on Mar 27, 2013 at 9:33 AM ]
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM
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I've been on the Hopkins bandwagon for months! My favorite receiver in this draft, and actually one of my favorite players. I also think receiver is a need
Boldin - 1 year contract
Crabtree - Contract year, and may seek a HUGE payday
AJ Jenkins - Too early to write off, but how much do you alter your draft for a guy whose career stat line reads: 1 drop
Manningham - Last year of contract, coming off of major injury
Kyle Williams - Last year of contract, coming off of major injury, yet to have 250 receiving yards in a season
Having said that, there are 5 WR who are not going anywhere. Further, I think we'll draft at least 1 who has return ability (specifically punts) and the team seems high on Lockett. They will at least want to give him a fighter's chance to make the squad. I'm not sure I see how Hopkins fits in this year. I want us to draft him, but does it make sense?
Boldin - 1 year contract
Crabtree - Contract year, and may seek a HUGE payday
AJ Jenkins - Too early to write off, but how much do you alter your draft for a guy whose career stat line reads: 1 drop
Manningham - Last year of contract, coming off of major injury
Kyle Williams - Last year of contract, coming off of major injury, yet to have 250 receiving yards in a season
Having said that, there are 5 WR who are not going anywhere. Further, I think we'll draft at least 1 who has return ability (specifically punts) and the team seems high on Lockett. They will at least want to give him a fighter's chance to make the squad. I'm not sure I see how Hopkins fits in this year. I want us to draft him, but does it make sense?
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:48 AM
- TheRickestRick
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I know this isnt a mock, but if the niners board and picks worked out like that I would cream my pants.
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM
- dhp318
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You obviously like Floyd alot. In his game against Tennessee, while his explosivenes is obvious, he must've spent as much time on his ass as any player I've ever seen. Do you chalk that up to just a bad game, or could that suggest some issues with his balance and leverage?
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:56 AM
- lamontb
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Good work MD, but I think DJ Hayden is gonna be gone by the mid 2nd round.
Mar 27, 2013 at 10:05 AM
- ParkingLotPimpin
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Keenan Allen getting no respect
Mar 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM
- ishkabibel
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Thanks MD. Helps put wants and needs in perspective.
Mar 27, 2013 at 10:36 AM
- kentc1978
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Great list, thanks for putting that together. Realistically, Ansah and Werner look to be top 10 or at the very least top 20 picks, but I can see why you're skeptical about them.
Mar 27, 2013 at 11:24 AM
- NinerBuff
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You're really low on Jarvis Jones, any reason?