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MadDog's Big 254 Board

Greetings, all!

After much blood, sweat and tears, here is my first posting of the entire draft, my Big 254 board. This board is NOT A MOCK DRAFT, and NOT A DRAFT RANKING. It is a projection of where I believe players will fall during the draft. This first part of the first round has mock draft characteristics, but due to trades that happen all over the place, my goal is not to hit a player with a team at a particular spot. It is to provide a realistic general area where I believe players will be selected. That being said, I do see the Bills surely selecting a QB at 8, hence the projection.

As in any projection, players will be left off that "should have been drafted". That is the nature of a limited amount of slots, in this year's case, 254.

Have fun, send me questions about players, make criticisms, challenge. It is all fun and games at this point until all workouts are finished. Typing this not knowing the on-campus workout of Star Lotulelei, Mike Catapano and others from today at this point. Surely, one of biggest controversies may be my placement of QB's ranging from Geno Smith to Ryan Nassib to EJ Manuel to Matt Barkley and Matt Scott. And, then there is Manti. I will break down my thinking if you request.

Reloaded 3/24/13 at 1:50 EST

1 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M OT
2 Sharrif Floyd Florida DT
3 Geno Smith West Virginia QB
4 Eric Fisher Central Michigan OT
5 Dion Jordan Oregon DE/OLB
6 Star Lotulelei Utah DT
7 Lane Johnson Oklahoma OT
8 Ryan Nassib Syracuse QB
9 Barkevious Mingo LSU OLB
10 Jonathan Cooper North Carolina G
11 Dee Milliner Alabama CB
12 Tavon Austin West Virginia WR
13 Ezekiel Ansah BYU DE/OLB
14 Chance Warmack Alabama G
15 Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee WR
16 Datone Jones UCLA DE
17 Bjoern Werner Florida St DE/OLB
18 Sheldon Richardson Missouri DT
19 Jarvis Jones Georgia OLB
20 Desmond Trufant Washington CB
21 Sylvester Williams North Carolina DT
22 Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE
23 Xavier Rhodes Florida St CB
24 Arthur Brown Kansas St LB
25 DJ Fluker Alabama OT
26 Alec Ogletree Georgia LB
27 Cornellius Carradine Florida St DE
28 Kenny Vaccaro Texas S
29 Jesse Williams Alabama DT
30 EJ Manuel Florida St QB
31 Eddie Lacy Alabama RB
32 Kawann Short Purdue DT
33 Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine Bluff OT
34 DeAndre Hopkins Clemson WR
35 Jonathan Cyprien Florida International S
36 Keenan Allen Cal WR
37 Jamar Taylor Boise St CB
38 Mike Glennon NC State QB
39 Alex Okafor Texas DE
40 Menelik Watson Florida St OT
41 Damontre Moore Texas A&M DE
42 Matt Elam Florida S
43 Matt Barkley USC QB
44 Matt Scott Arizona QB
45 Zach Ertz Stanford TE
46 Johnathan Hankins Ohio St DT
47 Johnthan Banks Mississippi St CB
48 Quinton Patton Louisiana Tech WR
49 Jonathan Franklin UCLA RB
50 Giovani Bernard North Carolina RB
51 Manti Te'o Notre Dame LB
52 Eric Reid LSU S
53 Robert Alford Southeastern Louisiana CB
54 Kevin Minter LSU LB
55 Darius Slay Mississippi St CB
56 Justin Pugh Syracuse G
57 Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St DT
58 Justin Hunter Tennessee WR
59 John Jenkins Georgia DT
60 Jamie Collins Southern Mississippi LB
61 DJ Hayden Houston CB
62 Logan Ryan Rutgers CB
63 Margus Hunt SMU DE
64 Blidi Wreh-Wilson Connecticut CB
65 BW Webb William and Mary CB
66 Markus Wheaton Oregon St WR
67 Marquise Goodwin Texas WR
68 Vance McDonald Rice TE
69 Kyle Long Oregon G/OT
70 Tyler Wilson Arkansas QB
71 Robert Woods USC WR
72 David Amerson NC State CB
73 Jordan Poyer Oregon St CB
74 Christine Michael Texas A&M RB
75 Larry Warford Kentucky G
76 Gavin Escobar San Diego St TE
77 Montee Ball Wisconsin RB
78 Andre Ellington Clemson RB
79 Le'Veon Bell Michigan St RB
80 Jon Bostic Florida LB
81 Leon McFaddon San Diego St CB
82 Khaseem Greene Rutgers LB
83 Akeem Spence Illinois DT
84 Kiko Alonso Oregon LB
85 Cornelius Washington Georgia DE/OLB
86 Phillip Thomas Fresno State S
87 Montori Hughes Tennessee Martin DT
88 Sam Montgomery LSU DE/OLB
89 Ryan Swope Texas A&M WR
90 David Quessenberry San Jose St G/OT
91 Barrett Jones Alabama C/G
92 Stedman Bailey West Virginia WR
93 Zavier Gooden Missouri LB
94 Corey Lemonier Auburn DE/OLB
95 Terrance Williams Baylor WR
96 Travis Kelce Cincinnati TE
97 Chris Harper Kansas St WR
98 Travis Frederick Wisconsin C/G
99 Dwayne Gratz Connecticut CB
100 Tyler Bray Tennessee QB
101 Landry Jones Oklahoma QB
102 DJ Swearinger South Carolina S
103 Malliciah Goodman Clemson DE
104 Shamarko Thomas Syracuse S
105 Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech WR
106 Gerald Hodges Penn St LB
107 Aaron Dobson Marshall WR
108 Mike Gilleslee Florida RB
109 Tavarres King Georgia WR
110 Jordan Reed Florida TE
111 David Bakhtiari Colorado OT
112 Oday Aboushi Virginia G/OT
113 Sio Moore Connecticut LB
114 Joseph Randle Oklahoma State RB
115 Hugh Thornton Pittsburgh G
116 JJ Wilcox Georgia Southern S
117 Brian Winters Kent St G
118 Josh Evans Florida S
119 Tyrann Matheiu LSU CB
120 Bacarri Rambo Georgia S
121 Brandon McGee Miami CB
122 William Gholston Michigan St DE
123 Chris Faulk LSU OT
124 Dion Sims Michigan St TE
125 Ty Powell Harding DE/OLB
126 Brian Schwenke Cal C
127 Marcus Lattimore South Carolina RB
128 Chris Gragg Arkansas TE
129 Sanders Commings Georgia CB
130 Dallas Thomas Tennessee OT
131 Knile Davis Arkansas RB
132 Devin Taylor South Carolina DE
133 TJ McDonald USC S
134 Kevin Reddick North Carolina LB
135 Shawn Williams Georgia S
136 Kenyon Barner Oregon RB
137 Denard Robinson Michigan WR
138 Bennie Logan LSU DT
139 Armonty Bryant East Central Oklahoma DE
140 Michael Buchanan Illinois DE
141 Reid Fragel Ohio St OT
142 Josh Boyce TCU WR
143 Alvin Bailey Arkansas G
144 Nick Williams Samford DT
145 David Bass Missouri Western St DE
146 Trevardo Williams Connecticut LB
147 Lucas Reed New Mexico TE
148 Tourek Williams Florida International DE/OLB
149 Steve Williams Cal CB
150 Tony Jefferson Oklahoma S
151 Tharold Simon LSU CB
152 Jordan Mills Louisiana Tech OT
153 Kerwynn Williams Utah St RB
154 Jelani Jenkins Florida CB
155 Quanterus Smith Western Kentucky DE
156 Terry Hawthorne Illinois CB
157 Brandon Jenkins Florida St LB
158 Sean Porter Texas A&M LB
159 Ray Graham Pittsburgh RB
160 Charles Johnson Grand Valley St WR
161 Khaled Holmes USC C
162 Stepfan Taylor Stanford RB
163 Kenny Stills Oklahoma WR
164 Corey Fuller Virginia Tech WR
165 Xavier Nixon Florida St OT
166 Cooper Taylor Richmond S
167 Zac Dysert Ohio QB
168 Mike Catapano Princeton DE
169 Everett Dawkins Florida St DT
170 Vince Williams Florida St LB
171 Nico Johnson Alabama LB
172 Ace Sanders South Carolina WR
173 Lavar Edwards LSU DE
174 AJ Klein Iowa St LB
175 Nick Kasa Colorado TE
176 Conner Vernon Duke WR
177 Keith Pough Howard LB
178 Brennan Williams North Carolina OT
179 Cierre Wood Notre Dame RB
180 Cobi Hamilton Arkansas WR
181 TJ Barnes Georgia Tech DT
182 Rex Burkhead Nebraska RB
183 Chase Thomas Stanford LB
184 Kwame Geathers Georgia DT
185 Joe Kruger Utah DE
186 Duke Williams Nevada S
187 Stansly Maponga TCU DE/OLB
188 Ricky Wagner Wisconsin OT
189 Jonathan Stewart Texas A&M LB
190 Lonnie Pryor Florida St FB
191 Josh Boyd Mississippi St DT
192 Will Davis Utah St CB
193 Jordan Hill Penn St DT
194 Mark Harrison Rutgers WR
195 Dennis Johnson Arkansas RB
196 Wes Horton USC DE
197 Ryan Otten San Jose St TE
198 Reggie Dunn Utah WR
199 Branden Smith Georgia CB
200 Onterio McCalebb Auburn RB
201 Earl Wolff NC State S
202 Zeke Motta Notre Dame S
203 Kayvon Webster South Florida CB
204 Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M WR
205 Jasper Collins Mount Union WR
206 Manase Foketi West Texas A&M OT
207 Johnny Adams Michigan St CB
208 Jeff Locke UCLA P
209 Michael Williams Alabama TE
210 Vince Painter Virginia Tech OT
211 Jawan Jamison Rutgers RB
212 Kyle Juszczyk Harvard FB
213 Travis Howard Ohio St CB
214 Matt Furstenburg Maryland TE
215 Brad Wing LSU P
216 Luke Marquardt Azusa Pacific OT
217 Steve Means Buffalo DE/OLB
218 Rontez Miles California (PA) S
219 Zac Stacy Vanderbilt RB
220 John Simon Ohio St LB
221 Braxton Cave Notre Dame C
222 Brandon Magee Arizona St LB
223 Jeff Baca UCLA G
224 Garrett Gilkey Chadron St G
225 Terrell Sinkfield Northern Iowa WR
226 William Campbell Michigan DE/DT
227 Daxton Swanson Sam Houston St CB
228 Rod Sweeting Georgia Tech CB
229 Micah Hyde Iowa CB
230 Chris Hubbard UAB G
231 DeVonte Holloman South Carolina LB
232 Lerentee McCray Florida OLB
233 JC Tretter Cornell G
234 Etienne Sabino Ohio St LB
235 Jake Stoneburner Ohio St TE
236 Jaron Brown Clemson WR
237 Marcus Cromartie Wisconsin CB
238 Tommy Bohanon Wake Forest FB
239 Lamar Thomas New Mexico WR
240 Glenn Foster Illinois DT
241 Jerodis Williams Furman RB
242 Ryan Jensen Colorado-Pueblo OT/G
243 Dalton Freeman Clemson C
244 Miguel Maysonet Stony Brook RB
245 Zach Line SMU FB
246 Courtney Gardner Sierra College WR
247 Steve Beauharnais Rutgers LB
248 Sheldon Price UCLA CB
249 Steven Terrell Texas A&M S
250 Rashaan Melvin Northern Illinois CB
251 Don Unamba Southern Arkansas CB
252 Dustin Hopkins Florida St K
253 Cody Davis Texas Tech S
254 Jason Weaver Southern Mississippi OT
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Mar 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM ]
Awesome to see your list come together. Oday Aboushi is from Virginia and not Syracuse.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Awesome to see your list come together. Oday Aboushi is from Virginia and not Syracuse.

Thanks. Doubled dipped him and Justin Pugh. Just read that Aboushi lifted the bar three more times, from 18 at the combine to 21 at Pro-Day. Not enough to crack the top 100 in my opinion. Going to have to slip inside at guard is what I think teams will project.
Damn we are sitting rich in this draft. MD, if you bold +5 players within all of our picks, then there are quite a few spots where we have a chance at getting nearly any player!!!
Looking at the first round, I think the most surprising thing aside from Nassib and Tavon over Patterson was Vaccaro lasting almost to our pick. I've always seen him in the teens in mocks.

The only thing people seem to agree on in this safety class is that Vaccaro is the best. Opinions on the rest, from Cyprien to Thomas to Reid to Elam to Rambo, seem to vary greatly. With that in mind, and given our enormous hole in the defensive backfield, shouldn't we do whatever we can to draft Vaccaro if he indeed lasts to the late 20s?
  • kush
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First off, great job, That sure is a lot of names!

Good call on moving Sylvester Williams up from his spot on the last board.

Guys I think are too high:

Floyd - After the CFB season ended he was undervalued by most (most had him in the mid-late 20s) and now I believe he is overvalued by most. Personally I see him going 10-20.

Nassib - I like where you have him and Barkley going, I just see them flip-flopped (Barkley top-10, Nassib early 2nd)


Guys I think are too low:

Okafor - IMO he's too talented a pass rusher to slip out of the 1st

Lemonier - He's received 1st round hype in some circles, of late, but I see him as a solid 2nd round pick at this point. Very talented and versatile.

P. Thomas - I'd be thrilled to grab him around pick # 93, I just don't see him lasting. He's got a great all-around game and imo is one of the better true FS in this class due to his coverage ability.

Duke Williams is a safety and Why so low? He has as good or better striking ability than any other safety in this class and while he is a bit stiff he is much more fluid than say Donte Whitner or even Elam imo.

Kruger - Again, why so low? Great frame and ok-solid production. I haven't been able to find a lot of tape on him but what I have seen looks really good. Solid upside.
  • Amir
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I just don't see Geno Smith going in the 2-4 range.
Baccari Rambo should be ranked number 1 based on his name alone
Nice to see Kiko Alonso get some love. Also, if John Boyett didn't get injured last year, I think he would've gotten picked in the 2-3 range. I think whoever takes a chance on him in the later rounds could get an absolute steal.
Corey Fuller is listed twice on your list. Did you mean for one of them to be Marcus Davis, the other VTech WR?
The more I think about Jesse Williams, the more I hope the Niners draft him as a 3-4 DE initially. I know that 40 times are not everything, but a man his size running a sup 5.00 forty is incredible. I think he has the power and speed to be a force on the edge. And if the Niners move to a nickle, he'd a great as a 4-3 DT.

Then...if they could nab Brandon Williams to compete for the NT spot...serious beef.

A future with Jesse on the edge and Brandon in the middle. It is the new Williams wall!
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Corey Fuller is listed twice on your list. Did you mean for one of them to be Marcus Davis, the other VTech WR?

I was going to point out the same thing...Marcus Davis isn't on the board.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Mar 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Corey Fuller is listed twice on your list. Did you mean for one of them to be Marcus Davis, the other VTech WR?

I was going to point out the same thing...Marcus Davis isn't on the board.

Are you saying he should be ranked or he's currently already on the list? Because a command+f search for the name doesn't bring him up.
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Corey Fuller is listed twice on your list. Did you mean for one of them to be Marcus Davis, the other VTech WR?

I was going to point out the same thing...Marcus Davis isn't on the board.

Are you saying he should be ranked or he's currently already on the list? Because a command+f search for the name doesn't bring him up.

Marcus Davis isn't listed on MadDog's board as a draftable player. Since the other VaTech WR Corey Fuller is listed twice, I'll assume MD meant for one of those to be Marcus Davis since he is likely a 3rd-5th round prospect.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Corey Fuller is listed twice on your list. Did you mean for one of them to be Marcus Davis, the other VTech WR?

I was going to point out the same thing...Marcus Davis isn't on the board.

Are you saying he should be ranked or he's currently already on the list? Because a command+f search for the name doesn't bring him up.

Marcus Davis isn't listed on MadDog's board as a draftable player. Since the other VaTech WR Corey Fuller is listed twice, I'll assume MD meant for one of those to be Marcus Davis since he is likely a 3rd-5th round prospect.
Ahh you edited your post right before I quoted you. lol
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