808niner4lyphe MOCK DRAFT 1.0

I disagree with your analysis of Goodwin. He actually was very solid and his experience at reading the defense was immense in the post season. He's well worth his salary but since your cutting him you should've at least 3-4 rd pick on Schweinke from UCLA. The scouts went to 4 UCLA games so I have feeling they're going to pick him.

I keep seeing people predicting that guys like Whitner and Rogers are going to get cut and I just don't see it. The savings for cutting Rogers would be minimal and if you cut Whitner, now you have a team that went to the Superbowl who will have to be depending on a rookie in their secondary.

We would look very thin at WR.

Doesn't Whitner make the defensive calls as well? I believe he is only signed for one more season. I don't mind drafting a safety. In fact, we should regardless if we get Dashon Goldson signed to a longterm deal. However since Whitner's contract expires next year, it won't kill us to keep him this final season. I also don't get cutting two starters from a secondary where the pass defense ranked 4th (they were 16th last year). The release of Goodwin makes a little more sense only because we may already have a replacement on the team.

The release of Goodwin makes a little more sense only because we may already have a replacement on the team. I like this mock gave us a lot of good young talent on the defensive line if that trade scenario with Kansas City were to happen. Probably one of the best combination 3-4 defensive ends and 3-4 nose tackles that would be available with Jones and Williams, and then went back to DE/DT later in the draft. Those first two picks and the 6th round pick would make this draft a success . Phillip Thomas gives us another safety that can come in and start eventually, leaving us with no void to fill on our defense in 2014 when Whitner's contract is up. As it relates to EJ Manuel, I like him, but I'd actually be surprised if we went with a QB this high for insurance purposes only. Unless this is some kind of long range plan to coach up Manuel and eventually trade him a few years down the road to some QB needy team, we need to use our picks in the first three rounds to draft guys that will start for us eventually. I'd go for a corner here at that spot giving us Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Cox, and a rookie (I'd let Brock walk). I think we bring Delanie Walker back and draft a TE a little later, but you have a good replacement in line in the event we don't so I have no problem with picking up a TE.

I'm curious as to how will we be getting a 3rd round comp pick? What free agent loss would net us a pick that high? I believe Morgan and Manningham cancel each other out, so it must be Adam Snyder. He got a nice deal, but a 3rd round pick for the loss of him? In the event that we do get an extra 3rd (I'd probably say 4th), I'd take a shot on Marcus Lattimore. I have nothing against the Mathieu pick. I actually posted that I'm on the bandwagon in one of the other threads lol. But I'd wait until the 5th.

All in all, a good draft that gives us immediate help in most of our major weaknesses (covering slot receivers, a D-line rotation and replacement for Justin Smith, and kicker). Those four picks alone panning out would give this draft a really good grade.

Am I in the minority in thinking that we aren't as thin in receiver as people would think? We were a team that finished the season averaging 30 + points a game. This is with Michael Crabtree and Randy Moss who was only good for 2-3 catches a game as a STARTER. I know people are not sold on AJ Jenkins, but despite what people may feel about him, Jenkins should be able to handle matching that production and would be a true deep threat opposite of Crabtree. Kyle Williams will be back and I expect him to continue looking good with CK throwing him the ball. The sleeping giant that is Vernon Davis was awakened and we all saw what he did. This would once again leave some very favorable matchups for whoever is our #2 TE next year, LaMichael James or Kendall Hunter in the passing game. and Bruce Miller who is a better pass catcher than many realize.

It's just absolutely beautiful. Love this one.... .

A few things:

1- Love the Jones, Williams and Thomas picks. I have Jones and Williams 1-2 in my mock too.

2- There is NO chance Manuel falls that far. Not with the success of the pistol. Some team will take him higher

3- I highly doubt we break up the best O-line in the league. We dont need to. We wont be spending top dollars on free agents so we might as well keep the team together that was one play away from the Superbowl. I like Looney as the starting center AFTER this season.

4- Donte Whitner sucks. He is awful in pass coverage and in fact gave up the most TD's out of ANY safety in the league. I fully believe Goldson will slide over to SS and we will draft a replacement at FS. But I think we will bring in a vet on a cheap deal. Someone like Kenny Phillips. I doubt we start a rookie at FS this year.

5- I like Kelce if Walker leaves.

6- Not a fan of Mathieu. He is a great returner but he is not good in coverage. I'd pass. We have two nice returners in Williams and James anyways.

7- We need to get a 3rd OLB. Someone who can make an impact.

8- No WR aside from a 4th round pick?

9- Alex Smith is not going to get a 2nd round pick. No chance. Maybe we would trade Smith and our 2nd to KC for their 2nd round pick. We would basicly be trading up to the end of round 1. That is a deal that makes sense. Or just Smith for a 4th round pick.

10- We wont be getting a 3rd round comp. We are projected to get a 4th and two 7th's.

Nice work on the draft though.

Originally posted by eonblue:
I disagree with your analysis of Goodwin. He actually was very solid and his experience at reading the defense was immense in the post season. He's well worth his salary but since your cutting him you should've at least 3-4 rd pick on Schweinke from UCLA. The scouts went to 4 UCLA games so I have feeling they're going to pick him.

Schweinke is from Cal not UCLA.

Blasphemy!!!!

Originally posted by buck:

Schweinke is from Cal not UCLA.

Blasphemy!!!!

Awww whateva!

no thanks to Jesse "Yolo" Williams

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

no thanks to Jesse "Yolo" Williams

Lol. Does a tattoo really hurt your feelings that much?

U kinda stole my name

Really good draft.

I don't think releasing Carlos will happen - one more year and a gooming of his replacment.

Donte Whitner giving up the most TD's out of ANY safety in the league cannot be ignored. I like the idea by SteveYoung of Goldson will slide over to SS and bringig in a vet like Kenny Phillips. I doubt we start a rookie at FS this year but develop him with more and more playing time.

DRAFT: Really like Jones, Williams, Thomas picks. also like the Hopkins pick BUT I think we'll need to move up into the top of the round or get him in the 5th. A guy who can win lots of games for 10 years would be worth it.

Thanks for the heads-up on Chris Jones DT - someone to research.

We save nothing by cutting Rogers and he already restructured his deal so we could sign Bowman to his extension. He is not going anywhere.

He had an off year compared to 2011 but he was still out best corner. INT's don't mean everything.

Originally posted by 80849er4life:
U kinda stole my name

lol